Ban on Keris

[rahman]

Raja Muda

I'm using the Shellabear Student Edition. I'm actually reading the full text 35 years after my HSC exams!

Is there any context to the Keris Tempa Melaka (any incident?). Can't recall seeing this, but the keris panjang belonging to Raja Muda Trengganu was 8 jengkal -- I estimate that to be more than 2 feet long!

I'll also keep a lookout for that story about stabbing thru the palace floor. But I thought that was the fight between Hang Tuah and Hang Jebat, and the hulubalang decided to stab Jebat with their spears through the palace floor. As a result, both Jebat and Tuah decided to continue the fight after laying out the floor with metal trays (dulang). Was there another separate incident of this?

[Rick]

Here is a thread from the old forum . In it Federico cites sources for the information and (correct) dates of Pershings order .

http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/002215.html

[DAHenkel]

Interesting thread which brings a couple things to mind.

First, I recently read that Raffles, upon becoming governor of Bencoolen in the early 19th century, lifted a ban on the wearing of keris in the town out of respect for the feelings of the Malay inhabitants. Funny then that he saw fit to ban them in Singapore. Perhaps it was Farquar?

Also, I have been told that when the British took over control of Kelantan, they introduced a ban on the wearing of keris in Kota Bahru. This in turn sparked an interest in smaller keris, in particular the so called keris debek, which could be worn concealed. I have no historical sources for this so it must remain hearsay but it would be worth digging around a bit to find out if this were true.

[rahman]

Dear Mr Henkel

First, I recently read that Raffles, upon becoming governor of Bencoolen in the early 19th century, lifted a ban on the wearing of keris in the town out of respect for the feelings of the Malay inhabitants. Funny then that he saw fit to ban them in Singapore. Perhaps it was Farquar?

The quote from Sultan Hussein I gave earlier was in response to Raffles' proposal. The source is Hikayat Abdullah. It would be good to know the source about Bencoolen. British colonial policy in the 19th century in Malaya has generally been to disarm the Malays, and this continued into the early 20th century.

Munshi Abdullah, in his Hikayat Pelayaran Abdullah to the East Coast, noted the prevalent practice of carrying at least 2 keris, just as in Java. I'm trying to dig up a 1953 copy of that book which I seem to have misplaced. Will quote his observations when I find it.

Incidentally, there are wonderful vintage photos of various Malay sultans and their retinue in the late 19th century and early 20th century in the book, Malaysia: a pictorial history 1400-2004. Use a magnifying glass and you see various keris, p[edang and tombak borne by royal bearers.

I note a good mix of Bugis, Malay and sari bulan sheaths among them. The Sari Bulan was extant even in the courts of Pahang and Negri Sembilan, much further south than you have postulated.

There are even what seems like keris panjang. These are interestingly wrapped in cloth, unlike other keris. Anyway, do take a look at the book. It cost me RM99 at Times JB, but it's selling for more than S$60 at Borders Singapore.

Also, I have been told that when the British took over control of Kelantan, they introduced a ban on the wearing of keris in Kota Bahru. This in turn sparked an interest in smaller keris, in particular the so called keris debek, which could be worn concealed.

Take a close look at those photos. You can see some people wearing keris concealed in the folds of their sarong. I'm not sure if it's the keris dabek, though.

The classics record that there is actually a short version of the keris called the keris pandak (keris pendek?) worn by Hang Tuah and friends. It seems to be a close combat weapon and pulling the keris from the side to the center of the waist is a signal that they are ready for a fight. The keris panjang, on the other hand, is described as a slashing weapon.

The Yang diPertuan Agung is often photographed with just such an arrangement -- a short keris tucked in the waistband, and a longer one carried in the hand.

[DAHenkel]

As I understand it the practice of covering up the keris with the sarong was because of the prevalent belief at that time that the photography of the keris would somehow "spoil" the keris. I doubt this was tied to the concealment of smaller keris. Keris debek are considerably smaller than the normal keris.

Keris debek are reputed to have evolved from the keris of elephant drivers, who required a shorter, smaller keris as they had to sit upon the back of an elephant for long periods of time.

[rahman]

Raja Muda:

"Jika keris tempa Melaka yang panjang tengah tiga jengkal itu dijadikan keris pendua, tiada kelihatan dari sebelah." (Ceritera yang ke 26)"

I'm not even going to try to translate it. Perhaps you can explain it.

Also, if you have more info on keris tempa Melaka, maybe you can start a new thread for discussion. We have not seen a keris Melaka before.

About 10 years, there was news of the salvaging of the Flora <something>, a Potuguese ship that was bringing back war booty from the invasion of Melaka in 1511. The initial repoerts mentioned a gold keris as one item salvaged, but no further news was forthcoming.

Maybe someone can help shed some light on this?

I think this discussion would be quite important as we will commemorate the 500th anniversary of the invasion of Melaka in 1511, an event that changed the face of the Malay world.