Weapon Design Project

son of oaf · 31st August 2006, 10:30 AM

hi

thanks for the feedback guys. i'm sure my buddy (bri) will be over the moon with all the compliments.
currently there are maybe three or four diferent types of barong, a couple of basic bolos, a kampilan and a few small knives, daggers and kerambits in the collection.

excellent re: "knuckle duster barong"..that's really cool! there's just nothing people haven't already tried is there!? i'd love to see a pic!

the mirror finished ones could pass muster for a demo, but we don't ever do them. i know some people just want a mirror polish on their trainers 'cos it looks good. others buy them and hang them on their wall!

we also have simpler, non polished corded versions that are more like the standard training blades for actually bashing together, sparing drills and work on the tyres etc.
i'll put up a pitcture when i bring one back from the gym.

so...anyone got any items in their collections that they would like to see training blade versions of?
i don't know what the best policy is here..i don't want to hassle people with stuff i like the look of..i'd love for it to be more of a collaboration thing..
anything and everything is of interest, completely different weapons, handles, blade shapes etc...
whaddya think?

just out of interest: here's a pic of a custom sword (one of a pair) made for a girl who does krabi krabong. bri ended up using a banister rail for the handles (still split with an aluminium core like the barong) and we got custom leather wraps made for the grips). bri is currently working on a more authentic handle for a second set.

cheers

son of oaf · 31st August 2006, 10:36 AM

hi,

sorry VANDOO.. i meant to reply a section of your post and forgot.
you suggested that we started with a basic set of moro weapons.
what did you have in mind?
please don't be afraid of offending me...assume i'm REALLY ignorant

you won't go far wrong.

i'd love to hear your ideas.

if you (or anyone) would rather pm or email me, please feel free.

i'm up for any suggestions or ideas, feedback or abuse!

thanks

katana · 2nd September 2006, 03:40 PM

Hi, Son of Oaf......you may find this interesting....

http://www.rsw.com.hk/activities.htm

son of oaf · 3rd September 2006, 10:44 AM

thanks katana

fascinating stuff.
i hadn't come across this before.
i'm off to re-read in more depth
groovy

thanks again

son of oaf · 16th September 2006, 06:50 PM

hi again..

just in case of any curiosity.
we took some more photos of other training blades that have been made up. i won't post all of them but here are a couple for you to look at.

the kampilan had been in the wars a bit

we tidied it up with a file but you can still see some dents!
this is the only one that bri has made so far...

the kerambit is one of a few variations made. so far it hasn't had a handle fitted.

i'd love to hear your thoughts..

thanks

andy

VANDOO · 18th September 2006, 05:17 PM

THE KAMPILLIAN LOOKS LIKE IT MAY BE MORE THE LEGNTH OF THE TIBOLI SWORDS THAN THE MORO KAMPILIAN. THE MORO KAMPILIAN IS A VERY LONG SWORD WHICH WOULD BE QUITE A BIT DIFFERENT THAN USING THE SHORTER TIBOLI/BAGABO SIZE WHICH IS ABOUT THE SIZE OF SOME DAYAK MANDAU. OTHER THAN THAT THEY LOOK LIKE THEY WOULD WORK WELL FOR PRACICE. YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND SOME GOOD INFORMATION ON KAMPILIAN SIZES AND STYLE BY SEARCHING THE ARCHIVES.
I FINALLY TOOK SOME PICTURES OF THE SWORD WITH THE BUILT IN KNUCKLE DUSTER I THINK IT WOULD BE CLASSIFIED AS A SANSABAR. THERE IS INFORMATION ON THEM IN AN OLD POST BY ROBERT COLEMAN "LONG PHILIPPINE SWORDS" ON 11/30/2005 THERE WAS ALSO A LINK
http://www.cebueskrima.s5.com/photo5.html IT HAS A SITE WITH SOME HISTORY AND PICTURES OF THE TYPE THERE IS SOME SIMULARITY TO MY EXAMPLE IN THE HILTS BUT NOT A COMPLETE GAURD. I SUSPECT MINE MAY BE A EARLIER TYPE FROM THE SAME AREA.
THE SIZE OF MY EXAMPLE IS 31.5 IN LONG IN SCABBARD, HANDLE 6 INCH, BLADE 25 AND 5 EIGHTS IN. L. THE HANDLE IS MADE OF BUFFALOW HORN, I HAVE HAD THE SWORD FOR 10 YEARS AND IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE IT WAS NEWLY MADE WHEN I GOT IT BUT NOT REAL OLD EITHER.

son of oaf · 21st September 2006, 06:13 PM

wow!

that is really cool.
thanks for showing me the pics.
i'll follow that link now..

thanks for all the feedback and encouragement

Andy

31st August 2006, 10:30 AM	#1
son of oaf Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Newcastle, UK Posts: 15	hi thanks for the feedback guys. i'm sure my buddy (bri) will be over the moon with all the compliments. currently there are maybe three or four diferent types of barong, a couple of basic bolos, a kampilan and a few small knives, daggers and kerambits in the collection. excellent re: "knuckle duster barong"..that's really cool! there's just nothing people haven't already tried is there!? i'd love to see a pic! the mirror finished ones could pass muster for a demo, but we don't ever do them. i know some people just want a mirror polish on their trainers 'cos it looks good. others buy them and hang them on their wall! we also have simpler, non polished corded versions that are more like the standard training blades for actually bashing together, sparing drills and work on the tyres etc. i'll put up a pitcture when i bring one back from the gym. so...anyone got any items in their collections that they would like to see training blade versions of? i don't know what the best policy is here..i don't want to hassle people with stuff i like the look of..i'd love for it to be more of a collaboration thing.. anything and everything is of interest, completely different weapons, handles, blade shapes etc... whaddya think? just out of interest: here's a pic of a custom sword (one of a pair) made for a girl who does krabi krabong. bri ended up using a banister rail for the handles (still split with an aluminium core like the barong) and we got custom leather wraps made for the grips). bri is currently working on a more authentic handle for a second set. cheers Attached Images

16th September 2006, 06:50 PM	#5
son of oaf Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Newcastle, UK Posts: 15	hi again.. just in case of any curiosity. we took some more photos of other training blades that have been made up. i won't post all of them but here are a couple for you to look at. the kampilan had been in the wars a bit we tidied it up with a file but you can still see some dents! this is the only one that bri has made so far... the kerambit is one of a few variations made. so far it hasn't had a handle fitted. i'd love to hear your thoughts.. thanks andy Attached Images

18th September 2006, 05:17 PM	#6
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	SANSABAR THE KAMPILLIAN LOOKS LIKE IT MAY BE MORE THE LEGNTH OF THE TIBOLI SWORDS THAN THE MORO KAMPILIAN. THE MORO KAMPILIAN IS A VERY LONG SWORD WHICH WOULD BE QUITE A BIT DIFFERENT THAN USING THE SHORTER TIBOLI/BAGABO SIZE WHICH IS ABOUT THE SIZE OF SOME DAYAK MANDAU. OTHER THAN THAT THEY LOOK LIKE THEY WOULD WORK WELL FOR PRACICE. YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND SOME GOOD INFORMATION ON KAMPILIAN SIZES AND STYLE BY SEARCHING THE ARCHIVES. I FINALLY TOOK SOME PICTURES OF THE SWORD WITH THE BUILT IN KNUCKLE DUSTER I THINK IT WOULD BE CLASSIFIED AS A SANSABAR. THERE IS INFORMATION ON THEM IN AN OLD POST BY ROBERT COLEMAN "LONG PHILIPPINE SWORDS" ON 11/30/2005 THERE WAS ALSO A LINK http://www.cebueskrima.s5.com/photo5.html IT HAS A SITE WITH SOME HISTORY AND PICTURES OF THE TYPE THERE IS SOME SIMULARITY TO MY EXAMPLE IN THE HILTS BUT NOT A COMPLETE GAURD. I SUSPECT MINE MAY BE A EARLIER TYPE FROM THE SAME AREA. THE SIZE OF MY EXAMPLE IS 31.5 IN LONG IN SCABBARD, HANDLE 6 INCH, BLADE 25 AND 5 EIGHTS IN. L. THE HANDLE IS MADE OF BUFFALOW HORN, I HAVE HAD THE SWORD FOR 10 YEARS AND IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE IT WAS NEWLY MADE WHEN I GOT IT BUT NOT REAL OLD EITHER. Attached Images

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31st August 2006, 10:36 AM	#2
son of oaf Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Newcastle, UK Posts: 15	hi, sorry VANDOO.. i meant to reply a section of your post and forgot. you suggested that we started with a basic set of moro weapons. what did you have in mind? please don't be afraid of offending me...assume i'm REALLY ignorant you won't go far wrong. i'd love to hear your ideas. if you (or anyone) would rather pm or email me, please feel free. i'm up for any suggestions or ideas, feedback or abuse! thanks

2nd September 2006, 03:40 PM	#3
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	Hi, Son of Oaf......you may find this interesting.... http://www.rsw.com.hk/activities.htm

3rd September 2006, 10:44 AM	#4
son of oaf Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Newcastle, UK Posts: 15	thanks katana fascinating stuff. i hadn't come across this before. i'm off to re-read in more depth groovy thanks again

21st September 2006, 06:13 PM	#7
son of oaf Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Newcastle, UK Posts: 15	wow! that is really cool. thanks for showing me the pics. i'll follow that link now.. thanks for all the feedback and encouragement Andy