Tulwar....anyone recognise these marks?

[katana]

Received Tulwar, a true heavyweight, the spine is 8mm distally tapering to 1mm at the tip. Seems well balanced and substantial. The blade has little patina except near the hilt, probably has been recently cleaned (overly cleaned, if you ask me) Done a 'slight' etch ...faint signs of pattern welding.

Anyone have any ideas about origins or possible age? This certainly is a 'working tool' , a few clean nicks in the blade and spine.
I didn't realise that these swords were ever made this heavy......the Indo-persian Army must have had a few bodybuilders in its ranks

[Jens Nordlunde]

Congratulations on your 'new' tulwar.
Not very good pictures the seller gave you, but hopefully you will send better ones.

Elgood writes that the Sikhs often used this mark on their weapons.
Yes, some of the tulwars are rather on the heavy side, but fearful weapons all the same, if the user knew how to users them – and I am sure they did.

[katana]

Thanks Jens,
I'll try and post some better pictures, tomorrow.

[spiral]

I wonder if the trident & kater mark signifies one of the 560 Indian princly states, that existed alongside the Raj?

Heres the flags of some of them..

linky!

& hers a similary marked sword. {personaly I would ignore the territorial provinance, without evidence..}

Another linky!

Spiral

[katana]

Originally Posted by spiral

& hers a similary marked sword. {personaly I would ignore the territorial provinance, without evidence..}

Another linky!

Spiral

Wow.... they are close..same orientation and very similar positioning...thanks Spiral

[katana]

The Katar marking was very unclear so I have carefully scrapped the grime from it ....and is clearly a depiction of a ....katar ...almost identical to the link provided above.
So, what does it all mean , can the blade be dated from these marks? I have tried to photograph the Katar mark but due to the position it is difficult to get a clear pic. worth posting