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Old 22nd January 2026, 11:50 AM   #1
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Victrix wrote that on the seal of Thorn there is an angel but i found one with Holy Mary .But not like the one on the blade.The sword certainly belongs to the city in the netherlands.
With " belongs to this city " i ment Thorn in the Netherlands.
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Old 22nd January 2026, 04:13 PM   #2
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"The collection of weapons that Carl Gustaf Wrangel assembled at Skokloster was already renowned in his day and it still exists, as the only undivided part of his chattels, in the three rooms on the top floor where he arranged it in 1669".
This you can read in the foreword of the catalogue "Wrangels Armoury". In this catalogue page 344 is shown only one single executioner's sword made at Passau. So the sword in question here had certainly nothing to do with Carl G. Wrangel and his armoury collection in Skokloster.
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Old 22nd January 2026, 09:01 PM   #3
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I’ve been to Skokloster on a guided tour twice. Amazing place. I think I even have a pic of the execution sword there. Von Wrangel was the commander but I’m sure he had a large group from the war with him. One of them could have brought the sword with him as war booty. Or von Wrangel might have gifted the sword when he was still alive. The univetsity town of Uppsala has lots of war booty from the 30 year war taken as war booty from Prague.
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Old 23rd January 2026, 06:59 AM   #4
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The Holy Mary image with child and halo above the coat of arms is no problem to see - but the coat of arms below is more difficult - maybe it will look better after cleaning? - about the shoe monastery, a lot has disappeared from there over the centuries, but if this sword was ever made before it will be difficult to know without old inventory lists, but they may also be incomplete - I will dig further into this matter, it is very interesting, we know so far the origin is probably Thorn in the Netherlands or Poland, will return next week with a better picture of the coat of arms and thank everyone who has helped with this so far!!!
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Old 23rd January 2026, 07:05 AM   #5
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The picture above shows 2 executioner's swords in the monastery of Skokloster, I know at least one more than the one the executioner in Helsingör had, it is also in the monastery of Skokloster, so at least 3, and probably more in the past.

Not Helsinki - Helsingör

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Old 23rd January 2026, 09:28 PM   #6
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The picture above shows 2 executioner's swords in the monastery of Skokloster, I know at least one more than the one the executioner in Helsinki had, it is also in the monastery of Skokloster, so at least 3, and probably more in the past.
Just a minor correction. Skokloster is in fact the Baroque castle built by von Wrangel. The location name may refer to a monastery which existed there before. During the reformation many monasteries were seized by the crown and demolished. Often the materials were recycled into castles.
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