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Old 6th November 2025, 07:00 PM   #1
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There are three rapier-type short swords called Mec in Topkapi Palace which are a bit similar. Two of them are featured in the Hilmi Aydin's book, they belonged to Sultan Suleyman and Sultan Ahmet I.
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Old 9th November 2025, 02:11 PM   #2
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I believe that the Sultan Suleyman's Mec got "new" fittings, i.e. the scabbard and passing decoration on top of the handle. The sword itself is earlier and very similar to the sword sought. The Sultan Ahmet's sword is also identical, alas no scabbard shown.
It is interesting that the general form survived in the later daggers of Central Asian steppe, like in the Teke Kard below.
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Old 9th November 2025, 06:05 PM   #3
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I believe that the Sultan Suleyman's Mec got "new" fittings, i.e. the scabbard and passing decoration on top of the handle. The sword itself is earlier and very similar to the sword sought. The Sultan Ahmet's sword is also identical, alas no scabbard shown.
It is interesting that the general form survived in the later daggers of Central Asian steppe, like in the Teke Kard below.
Thank you for this illustration; it's the first Tekke kard I've seen. May I inquire regarding the source of the illustration?
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Old 9th November 2025, 08:22 PM   #4
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I have taken photos of it - it is in my collection.
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Old 24th November 2025, 08:37 AM   #5
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This curved dagger is kept in the Moscow Kremlin Museum.
Overall length: 570 mm
Blade length: 440 mm
The blade bears the inscription «Князя Ондрея Ивановича лета ЗКА» ("Prince Andrei Ivanovich, year ZKA"). The year ZKA is the year 7021 from the creation of the world, or 1513.
The dagger belonged to the youngest son of the Russian Tsar Ivan III, Prince Andrei Ivanovich Staritsky.
This dagger is a further development of the curved knives of the Golden Horde. These knives are often found in archaeological excavations in Russia. Here's one from the State Historical Museum in Moscow.
Note that a very similar curved dagger is depicted in this miniature on a Uzbek prisoner. Furthermore, the pommel of Prince Staritsky's dagger is very similar to the pommel of Khan Yadygar's dagger. The pommel is attached with a through pin.
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