Yataghan for discussion.

[gp]

Originally Posted by kronckew

Just acquired this straight yataghan, sold at auction as a:


Good antique Turkish or Ottoman, Yataghan sword in hard scabbard, overall length approximately 29". The blade has triple impressed marking. Metals seem to be silver and brass. Lots of silver pins on the grip. The grip hasn't any ears!


Needs a good cleaning. The white goop I'm hoping is metal polish residue. The brass 'tonku' came out nice, tho. Will post better pics when it arrives.



My Research points to Istanbul 1850-1890, the marks being a guild mark or the maker's personal mark.

Any ideas on its age and area of origin welcome.



Thanks all...

I can't say much about the origin at this moment, except that I have seen most "straight" blade ones made in the Bay of Kotor but also being re-used at their time ( 1800-1900).
The scabbard's end on first sight doesn't look like Montenegrin....but I could be mistaken by the only picture;
if possible could you post a closer one of its end..? as I am most curious to learn more

Looking very much forward seeing it cleaned but in general I'ld say
"lovely jubbly"

a very nice good looking one and specially the handle's decoration is more than nice ! My compliments an excellent catch !!!

[serdar]

Originally Posted by gp

The scabbard's end on first sight doesn't look like Montenegrin.

There is no Montenegrin type of scabards end, in montenegreo they used what ever they bought or in most cases captured from turks.

But there is a Kotor type end and it is in silver a rounded ball at the end always.

His i think has a bud end but it isnt clear from photos.

Il post s picture of Bokeljski jatagan or boka kotorska yatagan and there above it is seen a part of the scabbard with ball end that is Boka kotorska type.

[gp]

Originally Posted by serdar

There is no Montenegrin type of scabards end, in montenegreo they used what ever they bought or in most cases captured from turks.

But there is a Kotor type end and it is in silver a rounded ball at the end always.

His i think has a bud end but it isnt clear from photos.

Il post s picture of Bokeljski jatagan or boka kotorska yatagan and there above it is seen a part of the scabbard with ball end that is Boka kotorska type.

For convenience sake, my friend... I referred to Montenegro as there is where the Bay of Kotor ( Boka Kotorska) can be found today.
This is eassier for most folks
you don't refer to Belgrade in the Ottoman times as Pashaluk or Sanjak of Smederovo...

One can't expect each forum member to have that detailed knowledge.

My comment was based upon the lack of bud on the foto and request for a more detail as otherwise it would be an assumption, and assumptions are the mother of all.... The bud could also have been broken off, that is another possibility.

Neverhtelss it is and remains a beautiful yataghan that would be a excellent piece in any collection !

[gp]

as comparison the only "straight"yataghan I a have,
although to compare it is incorrect, due to the fact that

- mine has ears...
- and sadly no scabbard.

Total lenght is 60 cm (so actually rather short / small....)
The grip made out some kind of bone, which I would not dare to say

and 2 more pics of a straight one