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Old 9th April 2025, 12:57 AM   #1
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Here

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I think there might be a thread elsewhere on the 1905-06 experimental cavalry and small numbers in trials out that away.

Then the 1911, predating Patton's 1913.

The thing is This room has always been, quite strictly, pre 20th century discussions.

I could link all the stuff from the USM forum but little of it would be my study. Two strokes down now, I have to rely on keywords, searches and the thoughts of others to retrace my recollections

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Old 9th April 2025, 01:05 AM   #2
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Figure this one I adopted. A federal period blade in what looks like a Spanish briquet hilt.

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THANK YOU GLEN!!!
Yes the 'militaria' stuff 20th c. is pretty much verboten, and I had always been curious whether the 1913 Patton had made it on Pershing's expedition chasing Villa in Mexico since Patton was with him. But that was the singular element of military swords I was interested in.

Its the many forms of swords and edged weapons in use by the factions of Revolutionaries as well as forces with Federal troops. through 1925.

This is a great example you show! and it seems there were many such unusual compositions using old briquet hilts.

This is one I found with cut down old dragoon blade from 18th c. with three bar cavalry hilt and the BRIQUET hilt. Blacksmiths in remote little towns were very creative and everything was recycled and used as required.

Thanks so much again Glen!
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Neat Mine has that boat anchor feel but still seems like a 'get out of the way' for getting as job done.

Sean Scott is the guru for all things US cavalry in the 20th century. Good threads there, particularly on the Patton. There are several that used to frequent the A&M forum that are active there.

https://www.usmilitariaforum.com/for...-spathologist/

I know a bunch watch here.

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More editing Villa stuff and the exoerimental https://www.usmilitariaforum.com/for...omment=2050419

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Old 9th April 2025, 03:31 PM   #5
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Thanks very much Glen! and for the links to the sites for discussing these 20th c. military swords. These of course have their own area of historic importance and apparently quite esoteric.
Meanwhile, I think the Mexican swords and edged weapons that were carry overs from much earlier times in Mexico are still pertinent here, so these put together examples OK, as well as many of the espada anchas and old cavalry swords and cutlasses.
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Default 19th Century Mexican cavalry swords potentially still in use in Revolution

In the late 1820s well into the 19th century, Mexican cavalry swords became more familiar with European cavalry hilts, and the long straight broadsword blades that had long been mounted in the 18th-early 19th c. 'bilbo' swords were remounted into them. These blades obviously had very long working lives!

I am still seeking more pictures of these sword types worn in the Revolution by various factions and often a matter of course of personal preference.
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