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Old 1st November 2024, 04:20 PM   #1
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It's a real beauty, the handle is nicely carved and seems not splitted, it has a very nice brass crown and the scabbard with its ivory mouth is complete and undamaged. Congrats for a beautiful sikin panjang.
They are called "sikin panjang", by using this term you will find several other examples here.
Why have you started a new thread? I would suggest conglomerateing the two threads from you, maybe a mod can arrange that?

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Hi Detlef , thanks for your input , i tried posting pics on my old thread but couldnt seem to get my head round how to do it and so opened a new one ,Anyway it doesnt matter now as ian has sorted it out , im glad you think its a good example ,its the first one of these ive had and when i saw at a local fair i just had to have it , i dont know alot about these but have been looking at a few threads on here which has been helpfull
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Really nice, glad you posted again. Love the gold double crown.
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Old 1st November 2024, 07:54 PM   #3
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Hello Tom,

a beautiful sikin panjang with a so called 'peusangan' hilt.
The brass lobes are also very nice. Wonderful complete piece, in perfect condition considering its age. A very nice 19thC sikin.

These kind of hilts (hulu), with the 'broader' beaks, are called hulu 'peusangan'.
'Peusangan' is a district, located around the 'Peusangan' river in the northern part of Aceh.
Probably these kind of sikin panjangs 'peusangan' are from that region, and differ with the 'normal style' of sikin panjangs with their broad beaked hilts, and the crosspiece on top of the scabbardmouths (made from different materials, such as wood, horn or, like yours, from ivory).

I've added two drawings with sikin panjang Peusangan.
One is from the Fischer catalogue, and the other one is from Kreemer.
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I owned a very similar one.
Still regret I let it go. To compare I will post some photos.
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I owned a very similar one.
Still regret I let it go. To compare I will post some photos.
Oh wow that is a very similar example ,thanks for posting
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Interesting to compare the cross pieces!
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Nice idea Detlef to place them next to eachother for comparisson.
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Hello Tom,

a beautiful sikin panjang with a so called 'peusangan' hilt.
The brass lobes are also very nice. Wonderful complete piece, in perfect condition considering its age. A very nice 19thC sikin.

These kind of hilts (hulu), with the 'broader' beaks, are called hulu 'peusangan'.
'Peusangan' is a district, located around the 'Peusangan' river in the northern part of Aceh.
Probably these kind of sikin panjangs 'peusangan' are from that region, and differ with the 'normal style' of sikin panjangs with their broad beaked hilts, and the crosspiece on top of the scabbardmouths (made from different materials, such as wood, horn or, like yours, from ivory).

I've added two drawings with sikin panjang Peusangan.
One is from the Fischer catalogue, and the other one is from Kreemer.
Hi Maurice , Thanks so much for your info and drawing on this sword,
Were these type with the ivory and brass crown a weapon of a standard fighter or more a higher ranking person ?
Also when looking closely at the blade you can see lots of pattern i guess this is what is classed as a laminated blade ,im quite a novice but i guess they were all folded laminated blades , Thanks again
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