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|  31st October 2024, 12:27 PM | #1 | |
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|  1st November 2024, 03:17 PM | #2 | |
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 Here is a hilt i have which i believe might be North Jawa, though others might have a different origin. It does bear some resemblence to your hilt in that it is an armless and legless figure with some vegetal abstraction, however it does not display the same hair style, but rather the long flowing hair that we generally associate with Buta Bajang hilts. | |
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|  2nd November 2024, 03:18 AM | #3 | |
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|  5th November 2024, 04:33 PM | #4 | 
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			Sorta. I have seen some scholars who associate the vegetal pattern of David's hilt with traditional animist forest spirits. Both are pretty hilts! I have a particular affinity for the North Coast style David shows. I am surprised no one has mentioned the five elements of wood, earth water and metal in relation to the mendak. Or the more western elements of earth, fire, air, water, space. EDIT: The Hindu/Buddhist elements correspond to the Aristotelian elements more or less: Agni (fire), Akasha, Ap (water), Prithvi (earth), Vayu (wind or air) Last edited by Interested Party; 5th November 2024 at 04:40 PM. Reason: More Info | 
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|  7th November 2024, 02:57 PM | #5 | 
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			Based on post #9, third picture down. If the bottom left is a clear crystal it could represent water in the Chinese system and Aether/Askha in the other systems. If the three o'clock item is flint or chert it could be fire or earth. I am not sure what the other items are though the bottom right looks to be clay. The top could be paper thus wood, and/or it could have something written on it? The 9 o'clock item is a complete mystery to me. We would be missing metal or Ap/water and Bayu/air depending on which system we were using.
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|  10th November 2024, 11:26 PM | #6 | 
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			Looks like a shark tooth to my eyes!?
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|  11th November 2024, 07:02 PM | #7 | 
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