New Keris - It Spoke to me and said Help - Now What??

Mudi · 15th July 2006, 07:02 AM

First keris Sumatra. Second keris Bali.

Henk · 15th July 2006, 08:56 AM

Greg,

That Sumatra keris looks very good.

Is the ukiran really glued on the peksi? Usually a piece of cloth is winded around the peksi and then the ukiran is attached to the blade. But there are some id.... walking around freely who use glue to attache the ukiran on the peksi

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I suppose you tried to rotate and draw the ukiran to remove it. A good way to remove a glued ukiran is to put the blade with the ukiran in the furnace that has a temperature of 150 or 175 degrees. Just heat the piece in this way for a few minutes and try to rotate the ukiran. When you can do that the glue is losening and you can remove the ukiran and the glue from the ukiran and the peksi.

Two important things: Wear heat resistance gloves when you do this. The Mrs. use those things to pick up the scales with delicious prepared dinner, so don't cut with the blade into her gloves

and certainly not less important: wait till she is going for shopping or working before using her furnace for these things. She won't like it

You better should oil the blade with keris oil. The blade looks very fine and oiling preserves this condition. Don't use to much oil. You can wipe it of with a cotton cloth and enough oil is left to preserve the blade. When the blade is dry again after some time, could be after some months or after a year, oil again.

Bill M · 15th July 2006, 01:09 PM

Is that a really big Summatran keris or a small Bali? Or some kind of optical illusion? I am referring to the picture of them together.

Alam Shah · 15th July 2006, 04:34 PM

The hilt ring of the bugis-influenced blade seems too big for the hilt. However, overall it's a nice keris. Congratulations!

Mick · 15th July 2006, 08:18 PM

Bill

I suspect that the Balinese Keris is a small one. It is a new piece and the workmanship on the blade is not especially fine.

sabertasche · 15th July 2006, 11:26 PM

Hi all, here is a size comparison of the two Keris in my collection. Still no luck trying to get the hande off the larger keris. It is possible that they used a resin to secure the two parts? I'm a little hesitant to heat up the two to soften the resin and get the handle off.

Maybe the handle has shrunk onto the handle???

Greg

Rick · 16th July 2006, 02:06 AM

I'll raise the voice of semi ignorance here and say that to me the entire piece looks Buginese ... except for the ukiran .

Just what makes this ensemble Sumatran ?

Educate me guys .

15th July 2006, 04:34 PM	#4
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	The hilt ring of the bugis-influenced blade seems too big for the hilt. However, overall it's a nice keris. Congratulations! Last edited by Alam Shah; 16th July 2006 at 04:10 AM.

15th July 2006, 11:26 PM	#6
sabertasche Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 149	Hi all, here is a size comparison of the two Keris in my collection. Still no luck trying to get the hande off the larger keris. It is possible that they used a resin to secure the two parts? I'm a little hesitant to heat up the two to soften the resin and get the handle off. Maybe the handle has shrunk onto the handle??? Greg Attached Images

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15th July 2006, 07:02 AM	#1
Mudi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Makassar, (Ujung Pandang), Sulawesi, Indonesia Posts: 38	First keris Sumatra. Second keris Bali.

15th July 2006, 08:56 AM	#2
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Greg, That Sumatra keris looks very good. Is the ukiran really glued on the peksi? Usually a piece of cloth is winded around the peksi and then the ukiran is attached to the blade. But there are some id.... walking around freely who use glue to attache the ukiran on the peksi . I suppose you tried to rotate and draw the ukiran to remove it. A good way to remove a glued ukiran is to put the blade with the ukiran in the furnace that has a temperature of 150 or 175 degrees. Just heat the piece in this way for a few minutes and try to rotate the ukiran. When you can do that the glue is losening and you can remove the ukiran and the glue from the ukiran and the peksi. Two important things: Wear heat resistance gloves when you do this. The Mrs. use those things to pick up the scales with delicious prepared dinner, so don't cut with the blade into her gloves and certainly not less important: wait till she is going for shopping or working before using her furnace for these things. She won't like it You better should oil the blade with keris oil. The blade looks very fine and oiling preserves this condition. Don't use to much oil. You can wipe it of with a cotton cloth and enough oil is left to preserve the blade. When the blade is dry again after some time, could be after some months or after a year, oil again.

15th July 2006, 01:09 PM	#3
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	Is that a really big Summatran keris or a small Bali? Or some kind of optical illusion? I am referring to the picture of them together.

15th July 2006, 08:18 PM	#5
Mick Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Orlando Posts: 104	Bill I suspect that the Balinese Keris is a small one. It is a new piece and the workmanship on the blade is not especially fine.

16th July 2006, 02:06 AM	#7
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	I'll raise the voice of semi ignorance here and say that to me the entire piece looks Buginese ... except for the ukiran . Just what makes this ensemble Sumatran ? Educate me guys .