Ceremonial sword, Hemba/Luba, D.R. Congo

Pertinax · 14th June 2024, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sajen

Very nice and complete example!

Hi Detlef, thanks!

Now comes the pleasant task of cleaning.

Regards, Yuri

Sajen · 14th June 2024, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pertinax

Hi Detlef, thanks!

Now comes the pleasant task of cleaning.

Regards, Yuri

Please share pics after it!

Regards,
Detlef

Marc M. · 14th June 2024, 09:26 AM

Judging from the appearance of the masks, kifwebe, depicted on the handle and scabbard, I would say Songye rather than Luba. It is often difficult to attribute an object to a people, especially when use and design are so close. Interesting piece.

Best regards
Marc

Pertinax · 14th June 2024, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc M.

Judging from the appearance of the masks, kifwebe, depicted on the handle and scabbard, I would say Songye rather than Luba. It is often difficult to attribute an object to a people, especially when use and design are so close. Interesting piece.

Best regards
Marc

Hi Marc, thanks!

Yes, very similar to Songye.

You're right, Hemba and Songye's ancestors migrated from the Luba Empire, so they have a lot in common.

On the Hemba people, I found information on the Kabeja cult. There are figurines for Songye Janus Two Faced, but I have not found a description of the cult.

Regards, Yuri

Pertinax · 14th June 2024, 04:12 PM

Thanks to Mark's help, I am amending the identification of the sword.

The sword clearly belongs to the culture of the Songye people.

drac2k · 15th June 2024, 01:16 PM

Thank you for the vintage picture of the warrior.I always considered the shield that he has ,with the carving and face to be made for tourists, but it appears that I may have been wrong based on the photograph.

Pertinax · 15th June 2024, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drac2k

Thank you for the vintage picture of the warrior.I always considered the shield that he has ,with the carving and face to be made for tourists, but it appears that I may have been wrong based on the photograph.

Thanks to the forum, we have the opportunity to exchange information and gain new knowledge.

Pertinax · 14th June 2024, 09:37 AM

[QUOTE=Sajen;291567]Please share pics after it!

Necessarily.

Regards, Yuri

14th June 2024, 04:12 PM	#5
Pertinax Member Join Date: Dec 2023 Location: City by the Black Sea Posts: 264	Thanks to Mark's help, I am amending the identification of the sword. The sword clearly belongs to the culture of the Songye people. Attached Images

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Email this Page	Search this Thread: Advanced Search
Display Modes
Switch to Linear Mode Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

14th June 2024, 09:26 AM	#3
Marc M. Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Belgium Posts: 293	Judging from the appearance of the masks, kifwebe, depicted on the handle and scabbard, I would say Songye rather than Luba. It is often difficult to attribute an object to a people, especially when use and design are so close. Interesting piece. Best regards Marc

15th June 2024, 01:16 PM	#6
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,269	Thank you for the vintage picture of the warrior.I always considered the shield that he has ,with the carving and face to be made for tourists, but it appears that I may have been wrong based on the photograph.

14th June 2024, 09:37 AM	#8
Pertinax Member Join Date: Dec 2023 Location: City by the Black Sea Posts: 264	[QUOTE=Sajen;291567]Please share pics after it! Necessarily. Regards, Yuri