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|  18th December 2023, 04:49 AM | #22 | 
| Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Nipmuc USA 
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			Langham's research shows it would be 1802ish, as the only time Drury listed as his majesty.  A goldsmith, etc.  What I believe to be a similar situation is my rather plain saber but fire gilt. A great sword shown here! I have also seen rougher castings. I was struck by a sidebar of design and style. I would be remiss not to mention Speltz's drawings. Some annotations are now wrong but he was working with known knowledge at the time and supplied appendices and a bibliography. https://archive.org/details/stylesofornament00speluoft So, my Thurkle, and an 1821/45 ('69 Wilkinson) I had to have. Plenty of half baskets got fancy. Even Edward Popham and his kastane saw a lot of styles. photo from the Royal Armouries Cheers GC | 
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