Blade gift

Hombre · 17th December 2023, 07:36 AM

Thank you, gentlemen!

Merry Christmas!

Best,
Stefan

David R · 18th December 2023, 10:41 PM

Also known as a Sabiki, and not really all that much to do with the Wahabi.

Hombre · 19th December 2023, 09:26 PM

Thank you, David!
Is my blade considered as a tourist blade or...
Just curious!

Best,
Stefan

Battara · 19th December 2023, 11:04 PM

.....and possibly a little more recent - no patina in the chasing and stamping work........

Marc M. · 20th December 2023, 03:42 PM

Hi Stefan

Here is mine, almost the same as yours. I agree they are fairly recent and thought they called Dharia.

Best regards
Marc

Jim McDougall · 21st December 2023, 01:54 AM

So Hombre, since you are asking for our thoughts, why not share yours?
Its discussion, not poker

I have had one of these for years, but have had no further notes other than it is a larger than normal janbiyya form from Hejaz, known as 'sabaki' as noted.
What drew me to this exemplar was that in research on Sir Richard Burton, in his 1853 account " A Pilgrimage to El Medinah and Meccah". In this Royal Geographic sponsored journey, Burton took the great risk of entering these Holy Places disguised as a Pathan Holy Man (not sure of the exact complexity of his identity).
The narrative was published in 1857 , and in this there was a line drawing of one of these, and other sources noted it was a sabaki, the association with Wahhabite followers.
In the photo shown in earlier post, the man and wife are Harb, whom were dominant tribe in Hejaz when Burton journeyed through, particularly surrounding Medina.

As noted, there is no reason this form should be attributed specifically to Wahhabites, as it seems a form that was notably present in Hejaz and to whatever tribes or followings present in those regions.

As I have no specialized knowledge or resources beyond what I have shared here, I'd very much appreciate the observations of those who do on this example.

Hombre · 4th January 2024, 05:34 PM

"So Hombre, since you are asking for our thoughts, why not share yours?
Its discussion, not poker"

You are correct, Jim! My thoughts are that it is a tourist piece and that it is not very old. Still happy about it because I got it from a friend who knew I was interested in different blades. He has been working in Saudi (IBM) and bought it there... Now when they have grandchildren his wife didn´t want it any longer so...

18th December 2023, 10:41 PM	#2
David R Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,118	Also known as a Sabiki, and not really all that much to do with the Wahabi. Attached Images

20th December 2023, 03:42 PM	#5
Marc M. Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Belgium Posts: 256	Hi Stefan Here is mine, almost the same as yours. I agree they are fairly recent and thought they called Dharia. Best regards Marc Attached Images

21st December 2023, 01:54 AM	#6
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,193	So Hombre, since you are asking for our thoughts, why not share yours? Its discussion, not poker I have had one of these for years, but have had no further notes other than it is a larger than normal janbiyya form from Hejaz, known as 'sabaki' as noted. What drew me to this exemplar was that in research on Sir Richard Burton, in his 1853 account " A Pilgrimage to El Medinah and Meccah". In this Royal Geographic sponsored journey, Burton took the great risk of entering these Holy Places disguised as a Pathan Holy Man (not sure of the exact complexity of his identity). The narrative was published in 1857 , and in this there was a line drawing of one of these, and other sources noted it was a sabaki, the association with Wahhabite followers. In the photo shown in earlier post, the man and wife are Harb, whom were dominant tribe in Hejaz when Burton journeyed through, particularly surrounding Medina. As noted, there is no reason this form should be attributed specifically to Wahhabites, as it seems a form that was notably present in Hejaz and to whatever tribes or followings present in those regions. As I have no specialized knowledge or resources beyond what I have shared here, I'd very much appreciate the observations of those who do on this example. Attached Images

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17th December 2023, 07:36 AM	#1
Hombre Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 232	Thank you, gentlemen! Merry Christmas! Best, Stefan

19th December 2023, 09:26 PM	#3
Hombre Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 232	Thank you, David! Is my blade considered as a tourist blade or... Just curious! Best, Stefan

19th December 2023, 11:04 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	.....and possibly a little more recent - no patina in the chasing and stamping work........

4th January 2024, 05:34 PM	#7
Hombre Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 232	"So Hombre, since you are asking for our thoughts, why not share yours? Its discussion, not poker" You are correct, Jim! My thoughts are that it is a tourist piece and that it is not very old. Still happy about it because I got it from a friend who knew I was interested in different blades. He has been working in Saudi (IBM) and bought it there... Now when they have grandchildren his wife didn´t want it any longer so...