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drac2k · 11th September 2023, 03:18 PM

Right you are Sajen, I have seen these before, but I never realized the subtle differences and I did assume that they were barongs. Is this a new blade form or an older one? The ones that I have encountered (now that I think about it), seem to be WW2 or newer.

Sajen · 13th September 2023, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by drac2k

Right you are Sajen, I have seen these before, but I never realized the subtle differences and I did assume that they were barongs. Is this a new blade form or an older one? The ones that I have encountered (now that I think about it), seem to be WW2 or newer.

Hello David,

Like myself! I never have recognized them until Xasterix bring them to attention in this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=keping
I can't answer the question if kepings are older blades or if they occur after 1900, maybe Xasterix can answer this.

Regards,
Detlef

Ian · 14th September 2023, 01:56 PM

David,

Two of mine at the bottom of post #7 in this thread are late 20th C items from Tugaya (Lake Lanao region). The seller purchased them in Zamboanga, but referenced the Maranao city of Tugaya as the origin of them. I had originally thought, like most of us, that they were just fanciful recently made barung.

I have several other keping examples that may date as far back as the 1940s but probably not pre-WWII. One was attributed to the Mandaya but is clearly of Moro manufacture with a brass hilt and scabbard.

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11th September 2023, 03:18 PM	#1
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,294	Right you are Sajen, I have seen these before, but I never realized the subtle differences and I did assume that they were barongs. Is this a new blade form or an older one? The ones that I have encountered (now that I think about it), seem to be WW2 or newer.

14th September 2023, 01:56 PM	#3
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,522	David, Two of mine at the bottom of post #7 in this thread are late 20th C items from Tugaya (Lake Lanao region). The seller purchased them in Zamboanga, but referenced the Maranao city of Tugaya as the origin of them. I had originally thought, like most of us, that they were just fanciful recently made barung. I have several other keping examples that may date as far back as the 1940s but probably not pre-WWII. One was attributed to the Mandaya but is clearly of Moro manufacture with a brass hilt and scabbard.