Ethnographic Arms & Armour
 

Go Back   Ethnographic Arms & Armour > Discussion Forums > European Armoury

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 22nd March 2023, 08:46 AM   #1
Teisani
Member
 
Teisani's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2022
Location: Romania
Posts: 314
Default

King Rudolph of Hungary => Mátyás Terczák of Drasty, castle lord of Gradec castle | renewal of coat of arms 1579
https://adatbazisokonline.mnl.gov.hu...s/adatlap/7345
Attached Images
 
Teisani is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd March 2023, 08:52 AM   #2
Teisani
Member
 
Teisani's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2022
Location: Romania
Posts: 314
Default

King Ferdinand I of Hungary => Márton Balázsdeák | coat of arms, Hungarian nobility 1563.
https://adatbazisokonline.mnl.gov.hu...s/adatlap/2622
Attached Images
 
Teisani is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd March 2023, 09:08 AM   #3
Teisani
Member
 
Teisani's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2022
Location: Romania
Posts: 314
Default

King Rudolph of Hungary => István Pap of Miskolc | coat of arms, Hungarian nobility 1582. Good details on the sword hilt.
https://adatbazisokonline.mnl.gov.hu...s/adatlap/7700

All these S-quillons and 8-quillons on Hungarian koncerz and pallash, remind me of other earlier Hungarian swords with similar guards . This thread is full of them. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...7&postcount=20
Attached Images
 
Teisani is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd March 2023, 09:25 AM   #4
Teisani
Member
 
Teisani's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2022
Location: Romania
Posts: 314
Default

Here is an example of why basing ourselves on these depictions in coats of arms / CoA. This one from 1582 has a man in typical Hungarian fashion, but with a knightly sword. It could be a pallash with a pommel, it could be e Germanic sword. We don't know for sure. This CoA may be old enough to depict weapons from an earlier period, and was inherited unchanged. To make things worse, Hungary, Wallachia, Moldova, Poland-Lithuania etc. were a mix of East and West, so both are probable.
https://adatbazisokonline.mnl.gov.hu...s/adatlap/7742
Attached Images
 

Last edited by Teisani; 23rd March 2023 at 05:46 AM.
Teisani is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
hungary, ottoman, saber poland

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:05 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Posts are regarded as being copyrighted by their authors and the act of posting material is deemed to be a granting of an irrevocable nonexclusive license for display here.