Large lantaka with Jawi script engraved

MABAGANI · 23rd June 2006, 08:08 PM

Reference to son of Muhammad greater than Iskander might point to one of the Mindanao Sultanates? there is one branch with these two names in close succession.
Not sure of Tunnu and Kamdan, unless these are translated wrong or part of the full names, the others are more common.
Any date on the lantaka?

cannonmn · 23rd June 2006, 08:59 PM

>Any date on the lantaka?

The only script or writing of any kind is that shown in my fragmentary pictures grouped on the ebay site, inked above, and since it is in Jawi script, I can't read it. But Raja looked at it and did not come up with any date. Come to think of it, I've never heard of a lantaka with a date on it, but that doesn't mean anything, I've only seen a tiny percentage of the lantakas in the US anyway.

I've noticed that mine, although not identical, bears a very strong family resemblance to the first and last of the large lantakas shown as fig. 519 (1) and (6) in Stone's famous work (A GLOSSARY OF THE CONSTRUCTION, DECORATION, AND USE OF ARMS AND ARMOR ....). The 6 lantakas shown in that figure were all from the Theodore Offerman collection, which was sold at auction in 1937. The catalog for the sale "is around" here and there, does anyone have it, and if so could you check if there is any additional information in it on the origins of the pieces shown? I would have thought Stone would have included that info, as he did for a great many other items in his book, but there's no specific provenance given for those fabulous lantakas.

23rd June 2006, 08:59 PM	#2
cannonmn Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 161	No date on lantaka >Any date on the lantaka? The only script or writing of any kind is that shown in my fragmentary pictures grouped on the ebay site, inked above, and since it is in Jawi script, I can't read it. But Raja looked at it and did not come up with any date. Come to think of it, I've never heard of a lantaka with a date on it, but that doesn't mean anything, I've only seen a tiny percentage of the lantakas in the US anyway. I've noticed that mine, although not identical, bears a very strong family resemblance to the first and last of the large lantakas shown as fig. 519 (1) and (6) in Stone's famous work (A GLOSSARY OF THE CONSTRUCTION, DECORATION, AND USE OF ARMS AND ARMOR ....). The 6 lantakas shown in that figure were all from the Theodore Offerman collection, which was sold at auction in 1937. The catalog for the sale "is around" here and there, does anyone have it, and if so could you check if there is any additional information in it on the origins of the pieces shown? I would have thought Stone would have included that info, as he did for a great many other items in his book, but there's no specific provenance given for those fabulous lantakas.

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23rd June 2006, 08:08 PM	#1
MABAGANI Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 221	Reference to son of Muhammad greater than Iskander might point to one of the Mindanao Sultanates? there is one branch with these two names in close succession. Not sure of Tunnu and Kamdan, unless these are translated wrong or part of the full names, the others are more common. Any date on the lantaka?