Do you think this is a genuine 1600 AD Knight's sword??

Jeff Pringle · 19th June 2006, 02:26 PM

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However, he did have some credible stuff to sell:

http://cgi.ebay.com/EFTIS-UNIQUE-IN...QcmdZ ViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/EFTIS-MASTERPIE...Qcmd ZViewItem

From the perspective of someone who has studied Viking artifacts pretty closely over the last few years, I'd say 'credible' is a very generous term.

And he's putting a new one up every couple months, even if the stuff was more convincing, that would raise my eyebrow.

Bill M · 19th June 2006, 02:33 PM

"Very controversial seller!"

Caveat Emptor

Marc · 19th June 2006, 03:17 PM

We've been many times advised by the moderators to refrain to discuss the dealers and concentrate in the pieces. So, I'll try to do exactly that... but Caveat Emptor, indeed.

This is an European late 17th- early 18th c. sword blade, of the sometimes called "military" type, in contrast with the more slender "civil" types. Probably mounted originally in a Waloon or basket-type hilt, which makes one wonder what the heck does that kind of pommel there. Anyway, the inscription on the blade is the mar of the Giacomo (Gio) Knegt (or Kneght, or even Knetch), an Italian (at least his name seems to hint so) working in the German city of Solingen in that period. He usually signed, indeed, GIO KNEGT / IN SOLINGEN or GIO KNEGT / EN ALEMANIA, with various spelling variations. Many of his blades were aimed to the Spanish market, hence the frequent Spanish version ("EN ALEMANIA" meaning "In Germany") of his signature. I've seen many of his blades mounted in Spanish military M1728-type (what you call "Bilbo"-type) cavalry swords, covering the period mentioned.
All in all, not a bad exemplar by itself. This, of course, completely ignoring the seller's comments about its possible origin.

On a lighter note, well, the market is free, surely enough, but if someone would really be consistently ready to buy these blades for this kind of money, I know quite a few people that wouldn't hesitate a second in dismantling a good part of their collections to supply exemplars...

katana · 19th June 2006, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc

I know quite a few people that wouldn't hesitate a second in dismantling a good part of their collections to supply exemplars...

exemplars............dont you mean Templars

Thanks Marc, I found your post very informative.

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19th June 2006, 02:33 PM	#2
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	"Very controversial seller!" Caveat Emptor

19th June 2006, 03:17 PM	#3
Marc Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Madrid / Barcelona Posts: 256	We've been many times advised by the moderators to refrain to discuss the dealers and concentrate in the pieces. So, I'll try to do exactly that... but Caveat Emptor, indeed. This is an European late 17th- early 18th c. sword blade, of the sometimes called "military" type, in contrast with the more slender "civil" types. Probably mounted originally in a Waloon or basket-type hilt, which makes one wonder what the heck does that kind of pommel there. Anyway, the inscription on the blade is the mar of the Giacomo (Gio) Knegt (or Kneght, or even Knetch), an Italian (at least his name seems to hint so) working in the German city of Solingen in that period. He usually signed, indeed, GIO KNEGT / IN SOLINGEN or GIO KNEGT / EN ALEMANIA, with various spelling variations. Many of his blades were aimed to the Spanish market, hence the frequent Spanish version ("EN ALEMANIA" meaning "In Germany") of his signature. I've seen many of his blades mounted in Spanish military M1728-type (what you call "Bilbo"-type) cavalry swords, covering the period mentioned. All in all, not a bad exemplar by itself. This, of course, completely ignoring the seller's comments about its possible origin. On a lighter note, well, the market is free, surely enough, but if someone would really be consistently ready to buy these blades for this kind of money, I know quite a few people that wouldn't hesitate a second in dismantling a good part of their collections to supply exemplars...