two rapiers 19th century??

[CSinTX]

Looks like a nice copy with maybe an older blade?

[kronckew]

See my comments on the other post on these two. Merging the two threads by a mod might be a good idea. Full length side by side photos would be nce, again allowing side-by-side comparison and tip details. The wide cross guard of the rapier is more common on what we call rapiers, a thrusting point centric, and dismounted infantry/civilian weapon, the backsword one is less rapier-ish and more `side sword/early mortuary look, and more useful for cutting on horseback than the other.

[fernando]

Originally Posted by kronckew

... Merging the two threads by a mod might be a good idea....

Yes, that is more functional. Certainly cel7 doesn't mind .

[kronckew]

I just noted a apparent defect/repair in the rapier (cropped pic below) where one of the sidebars joins the cross guard. Is the light substance brass (as in a brazed repair) or some sort of adhesive? A brazed repair would be more indicative of a 'user' rather than a wall hanger. Adhesive (epoxy?) would mean a modern botch job. Same if it is a recent tig or spot weld that hasn't been smoothed & matched in patina...

[Radboud]

Two very nice swords and fun to own, but I will agree with the vendor that they're 19th Century reproductions.

[cel7]

Originally Posted by Radboud

Two very nice swords and fun to own, but I will agree with the vendor that they're 19th Century reproductions.

I also think they are 19th century copies. I do suspect that the blade of the second copy is older and may have been reused.

[cel7]

Originally Posted by kronckew

I just noted a apparent defect/repair in the rapier (cropped pic below) where one of the sidebars joins the cross guard. Is the light substance brass (as in a brazed repair) or some sort of adhesive? A brazed repair would be more indicative of a 'user' rather than a wall hanger. Adhesive (epoxy?) would mean a modern botch job. Same if it is a recent tig or spot weld that hasn't been smoothed & matched in patina...

It is Brass, so probably an older repair. Still, I think this one is a 19th century copy.

[Interested Party]

Originally Posted by cel7

It is Brass, so probably an older repair. Still, I think this one is a 19th century copy.

Brass rod brazing is still used regularly and requires less equipment than arc, mig, or tig. It cleans up more easily around the joint. I bought some the other day for repairs.