square pommel schiavonnas

[Victrix]

Originally Posted by urbanspaceman

I came across this entry in a 1919 Ffoulkes catalogue of the Tower Armoury and it grabbed my attention; then it got me wondering if there was any known history regarding the square pommel before it appeared on schiavonnas?

Before schiavonas the square pommel was a feature on its predecessor, the spada schiavonesca (Slavonian sword) used in Hungary and neighbouring countries. I think the square pommel is basically a Kingdom of Hungary (including all its former lands) thing and there are lots of swords with this feature in the National Museum of Hungary in Budapest. The square pommel is also associated with Venice which exported the N.Italy produced swords to Hungary and the region. The swords also have S shaped cross guards which were a common feature of the Landsknecht swords.

[midelburgo]

This thread is relevant.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...6&postcount=15

[Victrix]

Originally Posted by midelburgo

This thread is relevant.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...6&postcount=15

Absolutely. I would add that although the Kingdom of Hungary often controlled the hinterland, Venice controlled much of the Dalmatian coast and cities. There was a lot of shipping and trade going on. Many Slavonians served as mercenaries and shipcrews in Venice. The Riva degli Schiavoni is a quayside area in Venice. Other landmarks named after the early Slavonian merchants include Palazzo Schiavoni and Scuola di San Giorgio degli Schiavoni. Apparently it is also not uncommon to find the name of Schiavone today as an Italian surname.

[midelburgo]

This one as well
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=12800

[Victrix]

This map of the 16thC shows how much of Dalmatia was controlled by the Republic of Venice. The Kingdom of Croatia-Slavonia was in dual monarchy with Hungary. When Hungary was in dual monarchy with Austria, the Austrian Emperor also became King of Croatia-Slavonia. The map serves to highlight the proximity of Venetian territory with Hungary/Croatia hinterland which resulted in trade flows, including arms.

[urbanspaceman]

Thanks Folks.