DOEHOENG KASOENDAN (A Soenda Perspective)

shadejoy · 1st April 2022, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Amuk Murugul

Hullo Jean,

I've changed the hilt for a 'more appropriate' one. Hope it's pleasing.
I've also attached pics of similar oversheaths from 18thC-early19thC. One was a present from Hamengkoeboewono.

Best,

Love the warangka ladrang you have (one from Hamengkoeboewono wow)! I had never seen pendok such as that before, it looks dignified.

Thank you very much for sharing your pusakas with us!

jagabuwana · 4th April 2022, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by shadejoy

I had never seen pendok such as that before, it looks dignified.

Yeah I really them too. Then again I'm pretty partial to West Java/Sunda stuff.

Interestingly, this style of pendok can be seen in one of the earliest and detailed depictions of the keris we have in art.

Attached is Frans Francken the Younger's "The Cabinet of a Collector", 1617. A Dutch painter.

I know of at least one Sundanese wood carver/mranggi who is attempting to make this style of pendok for collectors of Sunda/West Javanese keris. It doesn't seem to be that common anymore.

A. G. Maisey · 4th April 2022, 09:25 AM

Candi Sukuh, Jawa Tengah, Circa 1440CE

jagabuwana · 5th April 2022, 04:49 AM

Alan - I'd like to confirm that what I'm seeing is correct because it's not so clear to my eyes.

Does the relief show a sheath that looks like a sandang walikat wrongko, and a pistol grip-shaped handle?

A. G. Maisey · 5th April 2022, 08:12 AM

Absolutely correct JB.

There is another relief carving in the same location and with same time & place of origin that shows this style of wrongko too, but the carving is not as clear as this one.

Across in East Jawa at Candi Panataran (Penataran), near Blitar, state temple of Majapahit, we can find a representation of a wrongko that is 100% Bugis.

When we get to digging a bit and looking at the old, original evidence we do sometimes find a few unusual things.

A. G. Maisey · 5th April 2022, 01:31 PM

Candi Panataran, State temple of Majapahit, about 1200AD to 1450AD

jagabuwana · 6th April 2022, 05:33 AM

Yeah that does look quite Bugis-like, with what appears to be a figural hilt.

In the first relief, is much known about the social class / role of the persona holding the keris?

4th April 2022, 09:25 AM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,992	Candi Sukuh, Jawa Tengah, Circa 1440CE Attached Images

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A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,992	Candi Panataran, State temple of Majapahit, about 1200AD to 1450AD Attached Images

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5th April 2022, 04:49 AM	#4
jagabuwana Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 290	Alan - I'd like to confirm that what I'm seeing is correct because it's not so clear to my eyes. Does the relief show a sheath that looks like a sandang walikat wrongko, and a pistol grip-shaped handle?

5th April 2022, 08:12 AM	#5
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,992	Absolutely correct JB. There is another relief carving in the same location and with same time & place of origin that shows this style of wrongko too, but the carving is not as clear as this one. Across in East Jawa at Candi Panataran (Penataran), near Blitar, state temple of Majapahit, we can find a representation of a wrongko that is 100% Bugis. When we get to digging a bit and looking at the old, original evidence we do sometimes find a few unusual things.

6th April 2022, 05:33 AM	#7
jagabuwana Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 290	Yeah that does look quite Bugis-like, with what appears to be a figural hilt. In the first relief, is much known about the social class / role of the persona holding the keris?