Comments on this keris Picit?

Ganapati · 12th February 2022, 02:44 AM

Yes it has fingerprint whorls
I examined it closely...im across the country right now and can't post closeups but will

It is a very, very old blade...been looking for a picit like this for a long time and finally found one.

I have no desire to resell it..am happy to have it
True pusaka!

Rick · 12th February 2022, 02:51 AM

May it bring you happiness.

A. G. Maisey · 12th February 2022, 03:12 AM

GP, I'm very pleased that you have acquired a keris that brings you such a high degree of satisfaction, however, you have not acquired a keris pusaka.

The way in which finger print whorls are applied to both old & more recent keris is by the method that in Jawa we know as the "batik" method, it is called this because the blade, or an area of the blade, is covered in wax, the finger tips are pushed into the wax when it is still warm, this leaves a print in the wax, if necessary, these finger imprints are improved with a needle when the wax has hardened.

Once the finger prints or other design have been inscribed into the wax, the blade , or the localised area of the blade, is treated with acid, the finger print whorls that you can see are the result of acid etching.

After the pattern has been etched into the blade, the wax is removed with boiling water and the blade is cleaned and stained.

This topic of "batiking" a blade has probably been discussed previously on this forum, the practice is very well known to established collectors and students of the keris.

Ganapati · 12th February 2022, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

May it bring you happiness.

Thank you Rick

David · 14th February 2022, 02:27 PM

Like Rick i am glad you are happy with this keris. Ultimately that is the most important thing, that our collections bring us satisfaction. But i do have many doubts about this particular keris and i don’t believe these picit markings were done with a human hand.
I would also second Alan’s remark. A pusaka ceases to be a pusaka once the chain of kinship bond is broken. You cannot purchase a pusaka.

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12th February 2022, 02:44 AM	#1
Ganapati Member Join Date: Jul 2021 Posts: 36	Yes it has fingerprint whorls I examined it closely...im across the country right now and can't post closeups but will It is a very, very old blade...been looking for a picit like this for a long time and finally found one. I have no desire to resell it..am happy to have it True pusaka!

12th February 2022, 02:51 AM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	May it bring you happiness.

12th February 2022, 03:12 AM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,992	GP, I'm very pleased that you have acquired a keris that brings you such a high degree of satisfaction, however, you have not acquired a keris pusaka. The way in which finger print whorls are applied to both old & more recent keris is by the method that in Jawa we know as the "batik" method, it is called this because the blade, or an area of the blade, is covered in wax, the finger tips are pushed into the wax when it is still warm, this leaves a print in the wax, if necessary, these finger imprints are improved with a needle when the wax has hardened. Once the finger prints or other design have been inscribed into the wax, the blade , or the localised area of the blade, is treated with acid, the finger print whorls that you can see are the result of acid etching. After the pattern has been etched into the blade, the wax is removed with boiling water and the blade is cleaned and stained. This topic of "batiking" a blade has probably been discussed previously on this forum, the practice is very well known to established collectors and students of the keris.

14th February 2022, 02:27 PM	#5
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	Like Rick i am glad you are happy with this keris. Ultimately that is the most important thing, that our collections bring us satisfaction. But i do have many doubts about this particular keris and i don’t believe these picit markings were done with a human hand. I would also second Alan’s remark. A pusaka ceases to be a pusaka once the chain of kinship bond is broken. You cannot purchase a pusaka.