Antique ottoman... ehm... something

Titus Pullo · 8th June 2006, 05:30 AM

Gorgeous!

not2sharp · 8th June 2006, 06:03 AM

OK, it's a 18th century movie prop for an Indian verison of a Martain UFO.

Just hang it by a string and play this theme music:

http://pages.prodigy.net/ehammer/ufoscare.mid

n2s

ham · 8th June 2006, 06:05 AM

Gentlemen,

Erlikhan is quite literally half right-- tabiki sahandir-- it is a food cover. The rest is cobbled up. Look at the difference in color between top and bottom. The applied brass edge was never intended to open. It is a bazaar curio, the production of which was prompted by a tourist demand for 'authentic' items... even when they had no idea what they were.

Ham

Rather · 8th June 2006, 10:53 AM

I also think that is is a hot water bottle to warm up the bed. Here is a old German version, made of copper, as a reference. It also has a ring to carry the bottle, when it's hot.

Tim Simmons · 8th June 2006, 07:30 PM

Far out!!

fernando · 8th June 2006, 09:55 PM

How much of an openning vent do you get when you pull up that springed cap ... any at all ? as if this would define whether it is for pouring in (whatever) or breathing out (whatever) ... or both.

Mark · 8th June 2006, 10:10 PM

Some questions:

1) Is the cylinder in the background part of it? It looks like a stand for something. In any event, the object looks like it was made to sit on/in something that hid the lower part.

2) Is it even water (or oil) tight? That would be a good clue about whether it is a hot water bottle of some sort.

3) Ham sounds pretty sure it is a tabiki sahandir, or a modified one at any rate, and Rick suggested that the top and bottom could have been stuck together later. Is this the answer?

4) I'm still not clear what the "springed mounted" cap is. Can you pull it up far enough to get a look inside, or is how it looks in the photo as far out as it goes? If it is, the fact that it comes out crookedly like that could well be because of a tab that could be turned ro line up with the slot in the body & permit the whole cap to come out, as again Rick suggested.

5) What is it made out of? It looks like copper or maybe bronze in the photos, with brass used in the band around the equator of the thing.

6) Any evidence on the bottom that it was exposed to flame, or at least heat?

It looks nice, whatever it is. Maybe it is just a "thing."

Valjhun · 9th June 2006, 09:20 AM

Hi,

Tim, Rather, I've managed to open it and I believe it to be really a bed warmer! Definetly something one would put water into, 'cos it is quite heavily "laquered" in the inside, and yes, it is water tight.

No, Mark, that cylinder is a qajar candle holder http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=qajar

It is not copper made however, white metal with great patina!

No evidence of heating the bottom.

Thank to all of you, for solving that mistery!

8th June 2006, 10:53 AM	#4
Rather Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hamburg, Germany Posts: 72	I also think that is is a hot water bottle to warm up the bed. Here is a old German version, made of copper, as a reference. It also has a ring to carry the bottle, when it's hot. Attached Images

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8th June 2006, 05:30 AM	#1
Titus Pullo Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 123	Gorgeous!

8th June 2006, 06:03 AM	#2
not2sharp Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 210	OK, it's a 18th century movie prop for an Indian verison of a Martain UFO. Just hang it by a string and play this theme music: http://pages.prodigy.net/ehammer/ufoscare.mid n2s

8th June 2006, 06:05 AM	#3
ham Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 190	Gentlemen, Erlikhan is quite literally half right-- tabiki sahandir-- it is a food cover. The rest is cobbled up. Look at the difference in color between top and bottom. The applied brass edge was never intended to open. It is a bazaar curio, the production of which was prompted by a tourist demand for 'authentic' items... even when they had no idea what they were. Ham

8th June 2006, 07:30 PM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,843	Far out!!

8th June 2006, 09:55 PM	#6
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	How much of an openning vent do you get when you pull up that springed cap ... any at all ? as if this would define whether it is for pouring in (whatever) or breathing out (whatever) ... or both.

8th June 2006, 10:10 PM	#7
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 987	Some questions: 1) Is the cylinder in the background part of it? It looks like a stand for something. In any event, the object looks like it was made to sit on/in something that hid the lower part. 2) Is it even water (or oil) tight? That would be a good clue about whether it is a hot water bottle of some sort. 3) Ham sounds pretty sure it is a tabiki sahandir, or a modified one at any rate, and Rick suggested that the top and bottom could have been stuck together later. Is this the answer? 4) I'm still not clear what the "springed mounted" cap is. Can you pull it up far enough to get a look inside, or is how it looks in the photo as far out as it goes? If it is, the fact that it comes out crookedly like that could well be because of a tab that could be turned ro line up with the slot in the body & permit the whole cap to come out, as again Rick suggested. 5) What is it made out of? It looks like copper or maybe bronze in the photos, with brass used in the band around the equator of the thing. 6) Any evidence on the bottom that it was exposed to flame, or at least heat? It looks nice, whatever it is. Maybe it is just a "thing."

9th June 2006, 09:20 AM	#8
Valjhun Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 692	Hi, Tim, Rather, I've managed to open it and I believe it to be really a bed warmer! Definetly something one would put water into, 'cos it is quite heavily "laquered" in the inside, and yes, it is water tight. No, Mark, that cylinder is a qajar candle holder http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=qajar It is not copper made however, white metal with great patina! No evidence of heating the bottom. Thank to all of you, for solving that mistery!