VOC hanger advice

David · 23rd November 2021, 04:58 PM

I have to join the skeptical crowd here on the authenticity of this mark. I suppose it is possible that the edges could have survived this well over all these years, but i must say that after taking a look at dozens of other examples this is the sharpest, deepest cut VOC mark that i have yet to see, even though this blade displays more corrosion than many of the blades i was looking at.
I am not put off by the A for Amsterdam not having the (v) as a cross line for the "A", but i do notice that the "C" of "Compagnie" looks almost identical to the "O", while on all the examples i have looked at there is a concerted effort to make the "C" look like the letter it is supposed to be. So it looks like it says VOO instead of VOC.
Even in years past i believe that people placed a certain high appraisal of VOC blades so this may not be a recent addition, but i suspect it may well have been added at a later date to increase the perceived esteem for this blade. Though i believe i can see some corrosion in the grooves of these marks i do not see the same level off corrosion i see on the surface of the blade.

cel7 · 23rd November 2021, 05:18 PM

I hadn't noticed that before, but you're right. The C is very similar to the O.
Thanks for your comment!

fernando · 23rd November 2021, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cel7

I hadn't noticed that before, but you're right. The C is very similar to the O...

As per post #6

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cornelistromp · 25th November 2021, 05:35 PM

I don't think there's anything wrong with the inscription, not with the C that looks like an O, not even with the A without a small v.
compare the inscription of a sword in the Visser collection now in the Rijksmuseum. see pictures. (overall 752, blade 624, 31mm wide at hilt.)
The 1 the 7 the VOC and the A are identical to the ones in post1

These types of cutlass are called ship cutlasses because they belong to the ship's stock, rather than a personal weapon.

I would really adjust the grip, it looks ridiculous.

best,
Jasper

cel7 · 25th November 2021, 07:54 PM

Thanks for your comment! I also think the handle is a monster, but since this doesn't quite fit in my collection, I'm probably going to part with it. I then leave it to the new owner to embellish the handle.

cornelistromp · 25th November 2021, 09:25 PM

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25th November 2021, 05:35 PM	#4
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,060	I don't think there's anything wrong with the inscription, not with the C that looks like an O, not even with the A without a small v. compare the inscription of a sword in the Visser collection now in the Rijksmuseum. see pictures. (overall 752, blade 624, 31mm wide at hilt.) The 1 the 7 the VOC and the A are identical to the ones in post1 These types of cutlass are called ship cutlasses because they belong to the ship's stock, rather than a personal weapon. I would really adjust the grip, it looks ridiculous. best, Jasper Attached Images

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23rd November 2021, 04:58 PM	#1
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	I have to join the skeptical crowd here on the authenticity of this mark. I suppose it is possible that the edges could have survived this well over all these years, but i must say that after taking a look at dozens of other examples this is the sharpest, deepest cut VOC mark that i have yet to see, even though this blade displays more corrosion than many of the blades i was looking at. I am not put off by the A for Amsterdam not having the (v) as a cross line for the "A", but i do notice that the "C" of "Compagnie" looks almost identical to the "O", while on all the examples i have looked at there is a concerted effort to make the "C" look like the letter it is supposed to be. So it looks like it says VOO instead of VOC. Even in years past i believe that people placed a certain high appraisal of VOC blades so this may not be a recent addition, but i suspect it may well have been added at a later date to increase the perceived esteem for this blade. Though i believe i can see some corrosion in the grooves of these marks i do not see the same level off corrosion i see on the surface of the blade.

23rd November 2021, 05:18 PM	#2
cel7 Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 157	I hadn't noticed that before, but you're right. The C is very similar to the O. Thanks for your comment!

25th November 2021, 07:54 PM	#5
cel7 Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 157	Thanks for your comment! I also think the handle is a monster, but since this doesn't quite fit in my collection, I'm probably going to part with it. I then leave it to the new owner to embellish the handle.

25th November 2021, 09:25 PM	#6
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,060	I sent you a pm