Bicol Ginunting

[tanaruz]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Hello Yves,

What do you see by yourself? Compare your blade with my two blades, do you see the same blade shape? Do you don't see the same pommel style? Same scabbard style?

I personally would call all three blades as binakla from the Bicol region, see this very informative thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=bicol

Best regards,
Detlef

Hi Sir,

I've done some searching and queries. I may have a solid answer to the question on hand. But I need you to send me some pics of the 'BARAT' or the TANG RIVET. This (and some other aspects of the blade), according to a very knowledeable person on Bicol blades would determine the answer to our questions.

The 'barat' is the rivet at the tip of the hilt.

Regards

Yves

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by tanaruz

I've done some searching and queries. I may have a solid answer to the question on hand. But I need you to send me some pics of the 'BARAT' or the TANG RIVET. This (and some other aspects of the blade), according to a very knowledeable person on Bicol blades would determine the answer to our questions.

The 'barat' is the rivet at the tip of the hilt.

Hi Yves,

First, thank you for your response! I will post pictures from top of the hilts but I guess that they won't be of great help, both tang ends are rotted away from corrosion. Just give me some time to take pictures.

Regards,
Detlef

[Sajen]

Hi Yves,

The "barat" from my third binakla you can see by the attached pictures.

Regards,
Detlef

[tanaruz]

Hello Sir,

Will be forwarding these reference pics to my contact in Bicol.



Kind regards

Yves

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by tanaruz

Will be forwarding these reference pics to my contact in Bicol.

Hello Yves,

First, I would prefer when you call me Detlef instead of "Sir"!

Secondly, thank you.

And here are the pictures from the sword in above with wooden handle, like said, the barat is rotten away, I've attached some more pictures from the handle.

Regards,
Detlef

[Sajen]

And here the handle from the sword in down with horn handle, the barat is as well gone due corrosion but with a little bit imagination you can see the form and where it was situated.

[tanaruz]

Hello Detlef,

Here are some inputs from my contact in Bicol:

1) the blade profile is indeed a 'binakla,'- even in the absence of a 'manok-manok' (serrations on the blade). A minasbad indeed;

2) It might have been forged in the Province of Sorsogon (that's in the Bicol Region). Now looking where Sorsogon is (southernmost part of Bicol)- your blade certainly have a very clear Visayan influence (your third binakla). This 3rd binakla blade has a kinabayo hilt- with, of course, a ginunting blade;

3) But the scabbard on the 3rd binakla is not Bicol. But rather of 'Visayan influence' as made mention in # 3. It would have been much nicer, he says, if the scabbard is Bicol;

Hope this clears the air a little bit. ha ha ha.

All the best,

Yves