Show us your Maguindanao panabas

Rick · 15th February 2021, 08:06 PM

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Sorry for the bad picture. I had lighting issues and was more interested in presenting the text. When I looked at the originals with a jeweler's loop 526 appeared to have a Indonesian or Sumatran style pamor. 528 had a cloudy line down the longitudinal center of the blade with a light towards the cutting edge and a dark side towards the spine. I can't tell if it is a lamination mark or a differential temper.

Thank you all for explaining the ancestry of these weapons. Am I correct in assuming that they occupied similar places in the relative martial traditions as heavy choppers? I would imagine that given proximity these are cultures that had some contact with each other. I have been noticing that posted examples have very little edge damage. Does this mean that there was little blade to blade contact in this martial arts system, i.e. no or few parries, or are surviving examples ones that did not see use?

The small panabas pictured here has quite a bit of edge damage and a bullet wound to boot.

drac2k · 15th February 2021, 08:59 PM

Here are four of my favorite panabas,(panabi ?).

kino · 15th February 2021, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by drac2k

Here are four of my favorite panabas,(panabi ?).

Drac2k, gorgeous Panabas’. First one I’ve seen with a centipede / millipede.
Thanks for sharing.

drac2k · 16th February 2021, 12:24 AM

Thank you Kino; I posted it earlier under the title of "Unusual Panabas," which has detailed pictures if you care for a closer look.

xasterix · 16th February 2021, 01:48 AM

Thanks for the samples everyone- just caught up with all the posts now. I'm really interested regarding panabas varieties because it's my personal theory that each panabas type is suited for a specific purpose- like there are panabas that are hybrid (all-rounder), fighting-only, and ceremony-only. But so far all the panabas in this thread look potent!

Sajen · 16th February 2021, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by drac2k

Here are four of my favorite panabas,(panabi ?).

Hello Drac2k,

Stunning panabas, the one with the centipede!

Regards,
Detlef

drac2k · 16th February 2021, 04:24 PM

Thank you Sajen as I like both of yours as well, especially the shorter one; I looked closely at your panabas in a previous post of yours, and the designs with the segmented body and a stylized mouth also reminded me of a centipede. What do you think?

Sajen · 17th February 2021, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by drac2k

Thank you Sajen as I like both of yours as well, especially the shorter one; I looked closely at your panabas in a previous post of yours, and the designs with the segmented body and a stylized mouth also reminded me of a centipede. What do you think?

Hello Drac2k,

Never thought in this direction but with some imagination this could be indeed a stylized centipede.
What think other members?

Regards,
Detlef

Battara · 17th February 2021, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by drac2k

I looked closely at your panabas in a previous post of yours, and the designs with the segmented body and a stylized mouth also reminded me of a centipede.

I too hadn't thought of that, although I have never seen any research of how Maguindanao and Maranao okir would be used for making a centipede. I do think it is a possibility. Among the Igorots like the Kalinga, Tinguian, and possibly the Bontoc, even half a stylized geometric centipede still represents a centipede and it's potent power.

xasterix · 17th March 2022, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by drac2k

Here are four of my favorite panabas,(panabi ?).

Very nice samples! I've noticed that panabas with short handles and long blades tend to be older. I've seen a couple of references pointing to 1800s as the era by which these short-hilted beasts proliferated- while for early 1900s onwards, the panabas evolved to be more proportionate in terms of hilt : blade measurements.

xasterix · 17th March 2022, 03:27 AM

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The small panabas pictured here has quite a bit of edge damage and a bullet wound to boot.

What an elegant sample Rick!

Sorry I couldn't help but notice the barung on top- does that have a clipped upper edge?

Rick · 18th March 2022, 04:12 PM

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What an elegant sample Rick!

Sorry I couldn't help but notice the barung on top- does that have a clipped upper edge?

No, not clipped Xas.

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drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,334	Thank you Kino; I posted it earlier under the title of "Unusual Panabas," which has detailed pictures if you care for a closer look.

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xasterix Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 715	Thanks for the samples everyone- just caught up with all the posts now. I'm really interested regarding panabas varieties because it's my personal theory that each panabas type is suited for a specific purpose- like there are panabas that are hybrid (all-rounder), fighting-only, and ceremony-only. But so far all the panabas in this thread look potent!

16th February 2021, 04:24 PM	#7
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,334	Thank you Sajen as I like both of yours as well, especially the shorter one; I looked closely at your panabas in a previous post of yours, and the designs with the segmented body and a stylized mouth also reminded me of a centipede. What do you think?