22nd March 2020, 09:15 AM | #1 |
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Halberd or partizana?
Hello did someone know what is it, I have it for some tiime . Was it decorative or maybe something for battle.
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22nd March 2020, 11:58 AM | #2 |
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This sure is not a decorative piece but the real thing, Aspalathos; only that it suffered a lot of damage, starting by the removal of the side straps and apparently some smash of the blade side wings. A pity it is in so bad shape.
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23rd March 2020, 12:09 AM | #3 |
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As I mentionned in the other thread, I'm pretty sure it was a fonctionnal item, obviously pre-1850 (due to the structure of the steel), but likely much older, probably found in an excavation.
To me, it kind of looks like an "épieu", or "spear" in english, with its leaf blade, strong midrib, and lugs; not an halberd or a partisan in my opinion though. Epieux were mostly used to hunt but some saw use in combat (as described in Froissart' Chronicles for example). The faceted socket reminds me of some specimens from the XVth century, but it could of course be much later. |
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I am thinking of a weapon of war, because there are the pieces of fasteners on the sides for the wooden shaft (the splints as we say in French). Even if they are cut, we imagine their extension. It was a reinforcement to avoid the iron being cut by a heavy blow of horseman's sword ....
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23rd March 2020, 02:26 PM | #6 |
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I understand better now
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23rd March 2020, 04:42 PM | #7 |
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Gentlemens, thanks for the reply.
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what to call it?
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Names for this type of weapon include Spiedo da guerra, Knebelspiese, winged spear, or épieu de guerre. There are further examples on p 106, two are large examples with perforated triangular wings or lugs., George C Stone, in his Glossary... of Arms and Armor pp 122-23, identifies this type as a "Bohemian ear spoon" It is interesting that the entry for this item follows that for "Boar spear" -- one example of that group, in the Metropolitan Museum of Art, has a pair of fixed lugs on the socket as well, which establishes a conceptual link between weapons designed for sport as well as war. |
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28th March 2020, 01:56 AM | #9 |
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Appears to be a late 16th to early 17th c. halberd type often attributed to Austria.
The form is the same, but the rear hook, axe, and langets have been removed. See here for a very similar example. http://www.antiqueweaponstore.com/Et...ca.%201600.htm |
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28th March 2020, 01:33 PM | #11 |
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We could see that aspalathos example was damaged but ... not to such an extreme point.
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So, once upon a time long ago, someone may have had an old halberd and wanted a boar spear...
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28th March 2020, 02:16 PM | #13 |
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29th March 2020, 01:39 PM | #15 |
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Oh i see, Filipe. Shame on me. I took it that Lee's entry was only to offer a little humor .
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