Spanish cup hilt rapier - Caribbean hilt? Need some expertise to help me date sword

fernando · 1st March 2020, 03:43 PM

No expertise here, Mike ; only judging by the few swords of this type i have in my little collection and what has been said about them.
No doubt some smiths marks would help a whole lot.
Maybe if you wash that grease and other stuff that is covering it we (you) will have a brighter look; delamination seems not probable ... to me.
Also perhaps more clear pictures would help.
Meanhwile you can use the Search button above to read some (plenty) information about these cup hilt/hilted swords.

Flasheart · 2nd March 2020, 10:45 PM

Guys,

I read on one of the other posts that a Spanish sword had been preserved with olive oil. Was this a period technique. Maybe the dried 'grease' on this sword is some organic oil like olive oil?

Victrix · 3rd March 2020, 12:53 PM

More likely linseed oil.

fernando · 9th March 2020, 01:30 PM

I remember Michael (Matchlock) mentioning olive oil as a god solution for preserving blades, on basis that, if the Roman soldiers used to do it, it shouldn't be a bad method.
I wouldn't know about Spanish; maybe the post you have read was not about their usual resource but influenced by Michael's conversations.

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1st March 2020, 03:43 PM	#1
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	No expertise here, Mike ; only judging by the few swords of this type i have in my little collection and what has been said about them. No doubt some smiths marks would help a whole lot. Maybe if you wash that grease and other stuff that is covering it we (you) will have a brighter look; delamination seems not probable ... to me. Also perhaps more clear pictures would help. Meanhwile you can use the Search button above to read some (plenty) information about these cup hilt/hilted swords.

2nd March 2020, 10:45 PM	#2
Flasheart Member Join Date: Feb 2020 Posts: 4	Guys, I read on one of the other posts that a Spanish sword had been preserved with olive oil. Was this a period technique. Maybe the dried 'grease' on this sword is some organic oil like olive oil?

3rd March 2020, 12:53 PM	#3
Victrix Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Sweden Posts: 755	More likely linseed oil.

9th March 2020, 01:30 PM	#4
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	I remember Michael (Matchlock) mentioning olive oil as a god solution for preserving blades, on basis that, if the Roman soldiers used to do it, it shouldn't be a bad method. I wouldn't know about Spanish; maybe the post you have read was not about their usual resource but influenced by Michael's conversations.