German Morion around 1600

Lansquenet59 · 15th February 2020, 04:41 PM

Hello,
It is perfectly authentic. It is a very simple model, made in two parts, often light, I have one of a similar weight.

AHorsa · 15th February 2020, 10:41 PM

Thanks for the further opinion. Happy to hear that.
Is it possible to say whether this piece was made for military purposes, for night watches or guards or others?

Lansquenet59 · 16th February 2020, 11:11 AM

For me, it can be quite military, for the infantry. The models with decorations, are generally for the guards of the German cities.

AHorsa · 8th March 2020, 02:08 PM

Hi Lansquenet,

thanks for the info!

I figured out that under the newer blackening there is (active) rust partially. So I removed this new blackening. Now one can see different layer of older colours. The lowest layer seems to be a homogenious greyish/black, partially a bit blueish, thin cover. It looks like burnished. Was burnishing already known and used around 1600? Or might that have been made in later times?

Best regards
Andreas

Lansquenet59 · 8th March 2020, 05:39 PM

Hi Andreas,

At the time, the armor was either polished white. Or with a blue - black tint. It was heated to a certain temperature to achieve this result. (According to my knowledge).
So for me, it is its original color that we see there.

AHorsa · 9th March 2020, 10:23 PM

thanks for your opinion, Lansquenet!

I found some pieces with similar tint:

https://www.tulliehouse.co.uk/thecol...-morion-helmet

http://www.allenantiques.com/images/A-184-detail.jpg

8th March 2020, 02:08 PM	#4
AHorsa Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Rhineland Posts: 375	Hi Lansquenet, thanks for the info! I figured out that under the newer blackening there is (active) rust partially. So I removed this new blackening. Now one can see different layer of older colours. The lowest layer seems to be a homogenious greyish/black, partially a bit blueish, thin cover. It looks like burnished. Was burnishing already known and used around 1600? Or might that have been made in later times? Best regards Andreas Attached Images

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15th February 2020, 04:41 PM	#1
Lansquenet59 Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: France Posts: 132	Hello, It is perfectly authentic. It is a very simple model, made in two parts, often light, I have one of a similar weight.

15th February 2020, 10:41 PM	#2
AHorsa Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Rhineland Posts: 375	Thanks for the further opinion. Happy to hear that. Is it possible to say whether this piece was made for military purposes, for night watches or guards or others?

16th February 2020, 11:11 AM	#3
Lansquenet59 Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: France Posts: 132	For me, it can be quite military, for the infantry. The models with decorations, are generally for the guards of the German cities.

8th March 2020, 05:39 PM	#5
Lansquenet59 Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: France Posts: 132	Hi Andreas, At the time, the armor was either polished white. Or with a blue - black tint. It was heated to a certain temperature to achieve this result. (According to my knowledge). So for me, it is its original color that we see there.

9th March 2020, 10:23 PM	#6
AHorsa Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Rhineland Posts: 375	thanks for your opinion, Lansquenet! I found some pieces with similar tint: https://www.tulliehouse.co.uk/thecol...-morion-helmet http://www.allenantiques.com/images/A-184-detail.jpg