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A. G. Maisey · 15th January 2020, 10:44 AM

Anthony, re pamor jarot asem, the craftsman who produces this pamor might perhaps claim to have invented it, but if he did, he is certainly an extremely old man now. I don't know exactly how long this pamor has been around, but mention of it exists in old books that were published long before the current crop of Madura tradesmen became as talented as they now are.

I think perhaps your maker might have re-invented it, because I've never known anybody who could produce this pamor.

Regards,

Alan.

Anthony G. · 15th January 2020, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Anthony, re pamor jarot asem, the craftsman who produces this pamor might perhaps claim to have invented it, but if he did, he is certainly an extremely old man now. I don't know exactly how long this pamor has been around, but mention of it exists in old books that were published long before the current crop of Madura tradesmen became as talented as they now are.

I think perhaps your maker might have re-invented it, because I've never known anybody who could produce this pamor.

Regards,

Alan.

Hi Alan, what you have wrote is true. Indeed, he could have invented a new but similar pamor pattern. I think the name he gave is braid pamor (english) according to a friend.

A. G. Maisey · 15th January 2020, 08:35 PM

Yes, possibly, new, but similar.

I've had a look at some old drawings of Jarot Asem, and it does differ a bit from your "Jarot Asem". Maybe he calls it "Pamor Koncir".

JustYS · 16th January 2020, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Yes, possibly, new, but similar.

I've had a look at some old drawings of Jarot Asem, and it does differ a bit from your "Jarot Asem". Maybe he calls it "Pamor Koncir".

Hi Alan,

Is it possible to share the image of the old drawings of pamor Jarot Asem?

Thank you.

Anthony G. · 16th January 2020, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JustYS

Hi Alan,

Is it possible to share the image of the old drawings of pamor Jarot Asem?

Thank you.

allow me to be busybody first in providing the photo

A. G. Maisey · 16th January 2020, 08:03 AM

Yep.

That's a tamarind if ever I saw one.

JustYS · 16th January 2020, 10:51 AM

Thank you Anthony and Alan

15th January 2020, 10:44 AM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,056	tamarind fibre Anthony, re pamor jarot asem, the craftsman who produces this pamor might perhaps claim to have invented it, but if he did, he is certainly an extremely old man now. I don't know exactly how long this pamor has been around, but mention of it exists in old books that were published long before the current crop of Madura tradesmen became as talented as they now are. I think perhaps your maker might have re-invented it, because I've never known anybody who could produce this pamor. Regards, Alan.

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15th January 2020, 08:35 PM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,056	Yes, possibly, new, but similar. I've had a look at some old drawings of Jarot Asem, and it does differ a bit from your "Jarot Asem". Maybe he calls it "Pamor Koncir".

16th January 2020, 08:03 AM	#6
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,056	Yep. That's a tamarind if ever I saw one.

16th January 2020, 10:51 AM	#7
JustYS Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 146	Thank you Anthony and Alan