17thC Sword, maybe?

[Jim McDougall]

Originally Posted by Norman McCormick

Hi Jim,
The muck in the hilt looks very much like hardened grease so this could be a possibility. The lenticular blade does not seem altogether unusual for swords of this type.
My Regards,
Norman.

You may be right on the blade, all I can think of is those 'practice' blades, but those of course did not have a block ricasso.
You bring up great observations Norman...….actually I think YOU are one of the knowledgeable guys here.

[fernando]

For a lousy looker like me, given the aspect of some of the sections as looking real old, pommel (plus peen fixation) and all, the blade inscription is so crisp that it could (could) have been made at a later stage .
On the other hand, when you play with values, you are certainly aware that, the difference in value (read price) between a Victorian item and a XVII century one, is abyssal; independently from what Norman withdrew from his sporran to catch this one.
Hopefully Jasper comes around and give a honest and capable opinion on this piece.

[Norman McCormick]

Originally Posted by fernando

the difference in value (read price) between a Victorian item and a XVII century one, is abyssal; independently from what Norman withdrew from his sporran to catch this one.

Hi Fernando,
You should know me by now. When I bought this it was with the probability that it was a Victorian concoction in mind but always with the hope that it was earlier. My opinion began to change upon close inspection and with a bit of research I came to the tentative conclusion that all or parts may actually be 17thC . I have p.m.'d Jasper for an opinion so we will see what happens.
Kind Regards,
Norman.


P.S. It might be worth mentioning that I cannot find a Victorian version of this type of sword, plenty of rapiers etc.