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David · 25th March 2019, 02:28 PM

So what can you tell us about this particular form of wrongko Alan. I am presuming it is Cirebon. What era does this form originate from and did it serve a particular purpose (it seems more formal than everyday to me)?

Sajen · 25th March 2019, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by David

I am presuming it is Cirebon.

Hello David,

I would place it a little bit more to the East, Tegal. Handle and wrongko are typical.

Regards,
Detlef

PS: nice fitting sarung!

David · 25th March 2019, 08:31 PM

Thanks Detlef. Tegal and Cirebon are often a bit of a confusion for me as they seem to share some similar dress styles.

A. G. Maisey · 25th March 2019, 08:32 PM

Area of origin is Tegal.

I do not know the name applied to this wrongko by the people who used to wear this style, in Solo I have heard a number of people refer to it as "Teratai", "teratai" means "lotus/water lily", it is Malay/BI, rather than Basa Jawa, so "teratai" is likely to be a dealers' name or collectors' name rather than the name used by the people who made it or wore it --- something like our previous "caping/capil".

The hilt is a stylised Ganesha.

Tegal is located in North West Jawa Tengah, near Pekalongan.

Jean · 25th March 2019, 09:25 PM

Among European collectors this style of wrongko is said to have "hanging ears" on the sides.
Regards

A. G. Maisey · 25th March 2019, 09:43 PM

Yeah, well I guess it has got hanging ears, so there's another option for a collector's name:- "wrongko kuping gantung".

David · 25th March 2019, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Yeah, well I guess it has got hanging ears, so there's another option for a collector's name:- "wrongko kuping gantung".

I am still curious, however, if you know if such a wrongko would have been suitable for formal dress or was is more for every day wear?

Sajen · 25th March 2019, 11:34 PM

Hello Alan,

Kuping gantung is a nice name for this wrongko style!

David,

I only can guess but the few I've handled have looked as they have been for every day wear.

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25th March 2019, 02:28 PM	#1
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	So what can you tell us about this particular form of wrongko Alan. I am presuming it is Cirebon. What era does this form originate from and did it serve a particular purpose (it seems more formal than everyday to me)?

25th March 2019, 08:31 PM	#3
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	Thanks Detlef. Tegal and Cirebon are often a bit of a confusion for me as they seem to share some similar dress styles.

25th March 2019, 08:32 PM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,017	Area of origin is Tegal. I do not know the name applied to this wrongko by the people who used to wear this style, in Solo I have heard a number of people refer to it as "Teratai", "teratai" means "lotus/water lily", it is Malay/BI, rather than Basa Jawa, so "teratai" is likely to be a dealers' name or collectors' name rather than the name used by the people who made it or wore it --- something like our previous "caping/capil". The hilt is a stylised Ganesha. Tegal is located in North West Jawa Tengah, near Pekalongan.

25th March 2019, 09:25 PM	#5
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Among European collectors this style of wrongko is said to have "hanging ears" on the sides. Regards

25th March 2019, 09:43 PM	#6
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,017	Yeah, well I guess it has got hanging ears, so there's another option for a collector's name:- "wrongko kuping gantung".

25th March 2019, 11:34 PM	#8
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,214	Hello Alan, Kuping gantung is a nice name for this wrongko style! David, I only can guess but the few I've handled have looked as they have been for every day wear.