Talismanic brass "kerises"

David · 24th January 2019, 01:19 AM

When you say "brass" keris the only ones i am familiar with are the little token keris that are often sold as talismans. What you describe sounds a bot different. Photographs would be helpful to the discussion. I will assume that you don't mean these which are basically souvenirs.

jagabuwana · 24th January 2019, 09:42 AM

They may as well be little souvenirs. Attached photo is a pretty good example
of I'm referring to, if you can imagine it being about 10-15cm in length.

David · 25th January 2019, 12:24 AM

While i haven't usually seen them in wooden dress like that i am afraid that this is not a serious member of the keris family.
That said, you can take ANY object and imbue it with spiritual meaning and purpose if you have the will to. But i don't believe these are the kind of objects we really need to be talking about in this forum.

jagabuwana · 25th January 2019, 06:36 AM

Keris-like objects indeed. Fair enough, David

Pusaka · 26th January 2019, 12:16 AM

I think this Besi Kursani is more complex then brass.

jagabuwana · 26th January 2019, 01:26 AM

Interesting.

Though the most I can find about besi kersani is that it's probably a copper alloy of some sort but has some sort of relevance to some Islamic mystic beliefs.

Pusaka · 26th January 2019, 11:02 AM

I would not be surprised if some examples had a composition similar to Tibetan Thokcha because there is frequent suggestion that one major ingredient of besi kersani is meteorite.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thokcha

24th January 2019, 01:19 AM	#1
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,237	When you say "brass" keris the only ones i am familiar with are the little token keris that are often sold as talismans. What you describe sounds a bot different. Photographs would be helpful to the discussion. I will assume that you don't mean these which are basically souvenirs. Attached Images

24th January 2019, 09:42 AM	#2
jagabuwana Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 291	They may as well be little souvenirs. Attached photo is a pretty good example of I'm referring to, if you can imagine it being about 10-15cm in length. Attached Images

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25th January 2019, 12:24 AM	#3
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,237	While i haven't usually seen them in wooden dress like that i am afraid that this is not a serious member of the keris family. That said, you can take ANY object and imbue it with spiritual meaning and purpose if you have the will to. But i don't believe these are the kind of objects we really need to be talking about in this forum.

25th January 2019, 06:36 AM	#4
jagabuwana Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 291	Keris-like objects indeed. Fair enough, David

26th January 2019, 12:16 AM	#5
Pusaka Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 341	I think this Besi Kursani is more complex then brass.

26th January 2019, 01:26 AM	#6
jagabuwana Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 291	Interesting. Though the most I can find about besi kersani is that it's probably a copper alloy of some sort but has some sort of relevance to some Islamic mystic beliefs.

26th January 2019, 11:02 AM	#7
Pusaka Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 341	I would not be surprised if some examples had a composition similar to Tibetan Thokcha because there is frequent suggestion that one major ingredient of besi kersani is meteorite. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thokcha