Sjamboks? 4 rhino hide whips

katana · 21st March 2006, 09:38 PM

These are not my own photo's but are representative of the whips

spiral · 21st March 2006, 10:40 PM

Yes intresting, the darker ones I had were heavier than than the lighter coloured. My suspician is rhino would be heavier but thats is just a guess so could be tottaly wrong.

They are meant to be fairly stiff, like thick wire filled cable if you bend them them hold the bent position for a while before straightening slowly,have but one I tried to soften a bit with neatsfoot oil, sadley it became very floppy & whippy unlike a real sjambok.

The longest one of yours looks very weaponlike the shorter sturdy ones are typical of herdsman tools.

Tim. Youd have to have some serious tastes to like those, they can cut to the bone, even through clothing!

Spiral

katana · 22nd March 2006, 12:50 PM

Thanks Spiral,
I sourced info on the web, the longer is almost definately used as a weapon. Not only as a whip 'weapon' but also in a 'fencing style', thrusting at the eyes.... painful

. The shorter but similar one, could , apparently, also be classed as a Sjambok. As with swords, a long sword would be inaffective in a confined space. Hence the reason for Samurai carrying two swords, a katana in an alley way would not be as effective compared to the shorter wakizashi, or the even shorter tanto .
Has anyone any ideas as to value, I'm thinking of flogging (sorry

) one or two of them.

spiral · 22nd March 2006, 03:20 PM

There all Sjambok even the herdsmans tools.

I think in some countries they call them Kibboko or something like that as well.

In rural English Antiques & junk shops amongst the sticks & canes normaly about £20/£25.

May be more in auction? or in posher antique shops, or they would sell easily on ebay.

Although if they are Rhino it would have to be UK only sales. No export.

If you live in London a trip up the Portebelo rd on Saterday morning should unload them.

Spiral

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21st March 2006, 10:40 PM	#2
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Yes intresting, the darker ones I had were heavier than than the lighter coloured. My suspician is rhino would be heavier but thats is just a guess so could be tottaly wrong. They are meant to be fairly stiff, like thick wire filled cable if you bend them them hold the bent position for a while before straightening slowly,have but one I tried to soften a bit with neatsfoot oil, sadley it became very floppy & whippy unlike a real sjambok. The longest one of yours looks very weaponlike the shorter sturdy ones are typical of herdsman tools. Tim. Youd have to have some serious tastes to like those, they can cut to the bone, even through clothing! Spiral

22nd March 2006, 12:50 PM	#3
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	Thanks Spiral, I sourced info on the web, the longer is almost definately used as a weapon. Not only as a whip 'weapon' but also in a 'fencing style', thrusting at the eyes.... painful . The shorter but similar one, could , apparently, also be classed as a Sjambok. As with swords, a long sword would be inaffective in a confined space. Hence the reason for Samurai carrying two swords, a katana in an alley way would not be as effective compared to the shorter wakizashi, or the even shorter tanto . Has anyone any ideas as to value, I'm thinking of flogging (sorry ) one or two of them.

22nd March 2006, 03:20 PM	#4
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	There all Sjambok even the herdsmans tools. I think in some countries they call them Kibboko or something like that as well. In rural English Antiques & junk shops amongst the sticks & canes normaly about £20/£25. May be more in auction? or in posher antique shops, or they would sell easily on ebay. Although if they are Rhino it would have to be UK only sales. No export. If you live in London a trip up the Portebelo rd on Saterday morning should unload them. Spiral