Ottoman silver sword with european blade

Norman McCormick · 17th October 2017, 01:49 PM

Hi Eftihis,
Blade profile looks to me like the French 1822 Pattern Light Cavalry Sabre for Troopers/Officers. I see the date as 1823. There probably should be more script before the date giving the armoury where the blade was manufactured and possibly inspectors stamps at or near the ricasso.
Regards,
Norman.

Kubur · 17th October 2017, 08:07 PM

Hi
I'm very jealous you have always beautiful pistols and swords!
Norman is right, so is it a sword from the uprising?
Best,
Kubur

Jim McDougall · 17th October 2017, 08:28 PM

Perfectly spotted Norman!!! I agree.
Kubur, which uprising?

Norman McCormick · 17th October 2017, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

Perfectly spotted Norman!!! I agree.
Kubur, which uprising?

Hi Jim,
The Greek Uprising also known as the Greek War of Independence 1821/29
Regards,
Norman.

Kubur · 18th October 2017, 06:38 AM

Hi Jim, as Norman said, I suspect Eftihis to be Greek and to collect Greek weapons...
Eftihis please look at Morea expedition, you will have the list of the French regiments sent to help the Greeks.

eftihis · 18th October 2017, 08:13 AM

Ηello, thanks for your input! I am Greek but i do not collect only Greek items, and this sword i do not describe it as "Greek". I was wondering how this european blade ended up with this ottoman silver scabbard. A possibility could be for the blade to be a trophy from a battle and dressed like that by the new owner so that to treasure his booty. Another possibility is that these blades became "trade blades" at some time and for some reason was prefered by the owner of this sword. But is an intentional, well thought choice, because the owner spend a lot to dress this blade with such a nice and long silver scabbard.

digenis · 18th October 2017, 04:12 PM

Eftihi,

I have a Ottoman shamshir with the identical blade. I'll try to post pictures later. Different scabbard though.

17th October 2017, 01:49 PM	#1
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,618	Hi Eftihis, Blade profile looks to me like the French 1822 Pattern Light Cavalry Sabre for Troopers/Officers. I see the date as 1823. There probably should be more script before the date giving the armoury where the blade was manufactured and possibly inspectors stamps at or near the ricasso. Regards, Norman. Attached Images

17th October 2017, 08:07 PM	#2
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Hi I'm very jealous you have always beautiful pistols and swords! Norman is right, so is it a sword from the uprising? Best, Kubur Attached Images

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17th October 2017, 08:28 PM	#3
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,296	Perfectly spotted Norman!!! I agree. Kubur, which uprising?

18th October 2017, 06:38 AM	#5
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Hi Jim, as Norman said, I suspect Eftihis to be Greek and to collect Greek weapons... Eftihis please look at Morea expedition, you will have the list of the French regiments sent to help the Greeks.

18th October 2017, 08:13 AM	#6
eftihis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chania Crete Greece Posts: 511	Ηello, thanks for your input! I am Greek but i do not collect only Greek items, and this sword i do not describe it as "Greek". I was wondering how this european blade ended up with this ottoman silver scabbard. A possibility could be for the blade to be a trophy from a battle and dressed like that by the new owner so that to treasure his booty. Another possibility is that these blades became "trade blades" at some time and for some reason was prefered by the owner of this sword. But is an intentional, well thought choice, because the owner spend a lot to dress this blade with such a nice and long silver scabbard.

18th October 2017, 04:12 PM	#7
digenis Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 48	Eftihi, I have a Ottoman shamshir with the identical blade. I'll try to post pictures later. Different scabbard though.