Spearhead.... North African ?

Tim Simmons · 17th March 2006, 08:00 PM

I would be lying if I said they were rare, good examples of the any kind of spear, often considered part of a mans dress not just a weapon are always uncommon. Tim

Luc LEFEBVRE · 19th March 2006, 11:23 PM

In "Waffen aus Zentral-Africa" one is described has maybe Mangbetu.
Luc

Tim Simmons · 20th March 2006, 07:35 AM

Yes looks that way; I believe the Mangbetu also inhabit areas of the sothern Sudan.

katana · 20th March 2006, 12:03 PM

Thankyou Luc,
certainly looks like a good match, and the book you referred to seems very informative, the illustrations are excellent.It seems that a great deal of literature regarding African weapons are in German, French and Dutch ( I appreciate the historical reasons for this.) Looks like I will have to try and gradually locate some, and use the 'Babel Fish' translation site to read them.

Luc LEFEBVRE · 20th March 2006, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by katana

Thankyou Luc,
certainly looks like a good match, and the book you referred to seems very informative, the illustrations are excellent.It seems that a great deal of literature regarding African weapons are in German, French and Dutch ( I appreciate the historical reasons for this.) Looks like I will have to try and gradually locate some, and use the 'Babel Fish' translation site to read them.

Many books edited in Belgium are french/english/dutch (or german) , so no problem !
You can have a small list on my website at the bottom of this page:
http://lulef.free.fr/html/armes_africaines.html

Luc

katana · 21st March 2006, 04:51 PM

Thanks Luc, I like your website, so it's now in my 'favorites' in my web browser.

Wodimi · 1st April 2006, 11:44 AM

Hello Katana,

I just find your spear tip question. What you have is definitely a spear tip from the Tubu living in the South East Sahara, mostly in Chad, but also in Niger and South Libya. For reference you can look in Peter Fuchs; Die Völker der Südost-Sahara; page 31. There are some similarities to Mangbetu spears, that's right, but they all have asymmetrical blades. Attached also a Tubu spear (the first from above) from my collection. This throwing spears are around 130 cm long and have at the end of the wooden shaft a small copper winding.

Wolf

19th March 2006, 11:23 PM	#2
Luc LEFEBVRE Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: France Posts: 473	In "Waffen aus Zentral-Africa" one is described has maybe Mangbetu. Luc Attached Images

1st April 2006, 11:44 AM	#7
Wodimi Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 75	Hello Katana, I just find your spear tip question. What you have is definitely a spear tip from the Tubu living in the South East Sahara, mostly in Chad, but also in Niger and South Libya. For reference you can look in Peter Fuchs; Die Völker der Südost-Sahara; page 31. There are some similarities to Mangbetu spears, that's right, but they all have asymmetrical blades. Attached also a Tubu spear (the first from above) from my collection. This throwing spears are around 130 cm long and have at the end of the wooden shaft a small copper winding. Wolf Attached Images

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17th March 2006, 08:00 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,879	I would be lying if I said they were rare, good examples of the any kind of spear, often considered part of a mans dress not just a weapon are always uncommon. Tim

20th March 2006, 07:35 AM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,879	Yes looks that way; I believe the Mangbetu also inhabit areas of the sothern Sudan.

20th March 2006, 12:03 PM	#4
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	Thankyou Luc, certainly looks like a good match, and the book you referred to seems very informative, the illustrations are excellent.It seems that a great deal of literature regarding African weapons are in German, French and Dutch ( I appreciate the historical reasons for this.) Looks like I will have to try and gradually locate some, and use the 'Babel Fish' translation site to read them.

21st March 2006, 04:51 PM	#6
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	Thanks Luc, I like your website, so it's now in my 'favorites' in my web browser.