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Old 17th February 2017, 05:48 AM   #1
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Default Analogous examples to Dana's helmet

'Just noticed one of nearly identical shape and construction to the St Augustine helmet, published in the guidebook to the Luigi Marzoli Collection housed in the castle in Brescia, Italy. The piece (inv. no. E60), is dated to the period 1570-80 and attributed to a Brescian workshop or armory. The only real difference with this one is that it is lightly engraved with geometric and floral borders, and displays a large coat-of-arms of a lion rampant surmonted by a Cross of Lorraine. And it appears to be in near-perfect condition, having led a very sheltered life for about 450 years!

The museum identifies the type as a "morione aguzzo".

Turning to my copy of Umberto Franzoi's "L'Armeria del Palazzo Ducale a Venezia", there are 71 catalog entries for morions. The type with the "pear" stem is called "morione a punta" (the equivalent to the m. aguzzo), and the pattern with the comb is, predictably, the "morione a cresta". The interesting thing is that the pear-topped ones vary greatly in terms of their brims, ranging from flat and oval (inv. no. C7) to flat with a "football shaped" contour (inv. no. C14), to a highly exaggerated upturned boat shape (inv. no. C65). All of those in the armory collection are engraved and from Brescia. The crested ones are either Brescian or German, and this class is in the minority.

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Old 17th February 2017, 06:47 AM   #2
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So when is it a cabacete and when is it a morione? Curatorial choices of terminology can be quite varied and perhaps arbitrary -- the latter especially considering the number of neologisms which have become attached to certain objects by kernoozers and hobbyists long after the items themselves had passed from current use into the realm of nostalgia. ("Miquelet" and "mortuary hilt" are two classic examples of neologisms in a non-armor context.)

Fernando's posts, as well as mine, have touched on this. Here's another one --
the flat-brimmed cabasset with the pear stem top that the curators of the Armeria del Palazzo Ducale have placed into the class "morione a punta" is tagged as a "zuccotto" by the folks at the Armeria Reale di Torino. Same thing, different name.

And how about same name applied to a range of very different helmets? Check out Oakeshott, "European Weapons and Armour" fig. 90, A-K to see the variety of forms classified as "burgonets".
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It would seem the 'name game' is alive and well in all fields of arms and armour
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