Ethnographic Arms & Armour
 

Go Back   Ethnographic Arms & Armour > Discussion Forums > European Armoury

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 12th January 2017, 10:33 PM   #1
Jim McDougall
Arms Historian
 
Jim McDougall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Route 66
Posts: 10,306
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fernando
In Spain, Jim ? In this case Portugal, as you may read that the examples posted were found in my neighborhood.


Oops! Sorry Fernando, my bad.
Jim McDougall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th January 2017, 01:23 PM   #2
fernando
(deceased)
 
fernando's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Portugal
Posts: 9,694
Red face A little bit of History ... told in an unscholarly manner

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim McDougall
Oops! Sorry Fernando, my bad.
Never mind, Jim; we are used to such flaw .
As a matter of fact, in the period these helmets were used, neither Portugal nor Spain, in its actual concept, existed.
The Iberin Peninsula was then a countless number of Peoples and regions, which the invading Romans called Hispania (from the Phoenician/
Carthaginian Span or Spania). In the South East you would find the Iberians, a name previously given to the Peninsula by the Greeks and, in the North West you had a pre-Celtic group called Galaecians, which ended up being the Galicia region. From this Galicia, one southern part was donated in the XI century to the Burgundian Count Dom Henrique, for having helped King Afonso VI of Leon and Castille to fight the Moors. From this county called Portucale (from the Latin Portus=Oporto), Dom Henrique's successors managed to expell the Moors down to limits of the Peninsula Western strip by the year 1249, giving a final form to what is the oldest inaltered one nation state of Europe.


.
Attached Images
 

Last edited by fernando; 13th January 2017 at 05:24 PM.
fernando is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th January 2017, 04:26 PM   #3
Jim McDougall
Arms Historian
 
Jim McDougall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Route 66
Posts: 10,306
Default

Thank you Fernando, and very much appreciate your latitude in overlooking my flaws, which seem to increase by time. In this slip of the tongue, it has benefitted us with this additional refresher on the character of the Iberian regions in these times by cultural and ethnic groups. It is indeed a key factor to remember that in given times in history, modern national names did not exist in most cases, and most regions were called by quite different terms far from having recognized borders.
Jim McDougall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th January 2017, 05:00 PM   #4
fernando
(deceased)
 
fernando's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Portugal
Posts: 9,694
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim McDougall
Thank you Fernando, and very much appreciate your latitude in overlooking my flaws.
Nothing personal, Jim. I meant to say that, folks out there thinking that Portugal is nowhere or, in the least, a part of Spain, is a recurrent flaw ... fortunately each time less .
fernando is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th January 2017, 07:09 PM   #5
Jim McDougall
Arms Historian
 
Jim McDougall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Route 66
Posts: 10,306
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fernando
Nothing personal, Jim. I meant to say that, folks out there thinking that Portugal is nowhere or, in the least, a part of Spain, is a recurrent flaw ... fortunately each time less .
Not at all Nando, I meant I am of course among the masses who make these kinds of suppositions and misperceptions, and these days I can blame it on age
Jim McDougall is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:31 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Posts are regarded as being copyrighted by their authors and the act of posting material is deemed to be a granting of an irrevocable nonexclusive license for display here.