old german (?!) hunting sword/dagger to date

[francantolin]

Any opinion ?

13 hallmark ?!

[kronckew]

nice one. complete trousse-like set. have seen this karabela shaped hilt on a number of french attributed hunting swords and variously described as 'european' or 'continental' from 18th & 19th century, some with solingen blades. almost invariably without scabbard or small dressing companion knife. blades on the ones i've seen vary from straight to curved, sometimes with a clipped point. i guess it could also have been very early 20th c. by someone who admired and copied an earlier example. i leave that attribution to those more expert. i would have thought late 19th myself, but the almost mint condition IS unusual. the sword looks like it may have a bit more age, is there patination on it's blade? hard to tell from the photo.

[canos]

It's a Karabela, Poland, 18. century.
Compare: fischerauktionen.ch / Sept. 2015 / Lot. 1229

[francantolin]

Hello Kronckew,

thank you for your message,
I will post some picures of the blade,

for the ''13'' hallmark, I think I was wrong:

the numerals were ''strange'': not a classic 1 and 3;
I think now that they are arabic numeral: a 4 and a 2 : so ''42'' will be written,
1842 ? 1942 ? Ottoman or north african ?...

( sure it looks like german daggers, the hilt form is oriental too ?)..

Kind regards

[francantolin]

Do you think I'll post it in the ethnographic weapons forum ?

[francantolin]

tank you Canos,

i'll look.

her some pictures of the blade ( classic ) one of the hilt with worm holes so must not be too recent ...

[francantolin]

pictures

[fernando]

If (if) this hilt were made of silver, this would be the German/Prussian hallmark Lot system. The 13 lot purity corresponds to 812/000 silver.


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