World War2/Japansse Officer swords

donsamadhi · 28th October 2016, 01:15 PM

One more thing about the swords above.

In regard to the same numbers on both. Well, these numbers are identical because they were made in the same Chinese factory of weapon on an order of the Japanese army. Is it possible?And is it possible that Chinesse made them for special people?I mean about the inscriptions.Or maybe it is also another fairy tale.

Henk · 30th October 2016, 01:18 PM

I'm afraid this is a fairy tale as well. Brutaly said, chinese antique is fake. You have to know how to look to distinguish real chinese antique from fakes.

asomotif · 30th October 2016, 10:09 PM

May I suggest this link : http://www.japaneseswordindex.com/repro.htm

But beware, much better fakes / reproductions are being made.
Personally I suggest to check ebay for antique japanese swords.
If the seller is located in China you most probably are looking at a fake or reproduction.

donsamadhi · 30th October 2016, 10:28 PM

I have no more questions except one: where is this type of original swords?

Thank you for your time.

Battara · 31st October 2016, 02:19 AM

I agree with Asomotif. In fact another to watch is anything that says or is from Paul Chen. His company says they make reproductions of Japanese swords with damascus blades, but others have attempted to sell Paul Chen stuff as original and authentic Japanese nihonto.

mross · 1st November 2016, 08:28 PM

All good advice. The current repro's are very hard to distinguish from a photo. Some of the better ones will even stump collectors. The long answer is study so you know what to look for. Yes this is a daunting task, but fun in and of itself. If you want to take a shorter route find a reputable dealer that will stand behind the sale. Expect to pay a large amount of money for a real nihonto. You can get authentic Japanese swords from ww II that are machine made, but "real", however not nihonto. It all depends on what you want. Study.

donsamadhi · 3rd November 2016, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mross

All good advice. The current repro's are very hard to distinguish from a photo. Some of the better ones will even stump collectors. The long answer is study so you know what to look for. Yes this is a daunting task, but fun in and of itself. If you want to take a shorter route find a reputable dealer that will stand behind the sale. Expect to pay a large amount of money for a real nihonto. You can get authentic Japanese swords from ww II that are machine made, but "real", however not nihonto. It all depends on what you want. Study.

Thanks o lot mross!

I just expected the answer like that

I can give some extra photos perhaps somebody will estimate it on the forum.

donsamadhi · 3rd November 2016, 03:55 PM

Extra Photos for Japanse swords IIWW.

donsamadhi · 3rd November 2016, 03:59 PM

Extra Photos for Japanse officer swords IIWW.

Henk · 6th November 2016, 10:39 AM

If you did study the sword as i did on these pictures, your alarmbells should have ringed. Even the machine made WWII japanese swords are well executed and do not show grinded fillings as the scabbard shows. Also the mountings are of a cheap moulded quality.

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donsamadhi Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 24	I renew my question.. One more thing about the swords above. In regard to the same numbers on both. Well, these numbers are identical because they were made in the same Chinese factory of weapon on an order of the Japanese army. Is it possible?And is it possible that Chinesse made them for special people?I mean about the inscriptions.Or maybe it is also another fairy tale.

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30th October 2016, 01:18 PM	#2
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	I'm afraid this is a fairy tale as well. Brutaly said, chinese antique is fake. You have to know how to look to distinguish real chinese antique from fakes.

30th October 2016, 10:09 PM	#3
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,228	May I suggest this link : http://www.japaneseswordindex.com/repro.htm But beware, much better fakes / reproductions are being made. Personally I suggest to check ebay for antique japanese swords. If the seller is located in China you most probably are looking at a fake or reproduction.

30th October 2016, 10:28 PM	#4
donsamadhi Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 24	I have no more questions except one: where is this type of original swords? Thank you for your time.

31st October 2016, 02:19 AM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	I agree with Asomotif. In fact another to watch is anything that says or is from Paul Chen. His company says they make reproductions of Japanese swords with damascus blades, but others have attempted to sell Paul Chen stuff as original and authentic Japanese nihonto.

1st November 2016, 08:28 PM	#6
mross Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 478	All good advice. The current repro's are very hard to distinguish from a photo. Some of the better ones will even stump collectors. The long answer is study so you know what to look for. Yes this is a daunting task, but fun in and of itself. If you want to take a shorter route find a reputable dealer that will stand behind the sale. Expect to pay a large amount of money for a real nihonto. You can get authentic Japanese swords from ww II that are machine made, but "real", however not nihonto. It all depends on what you want. Study.

6th November 2016, 10:39 AM	#10
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	If you did study the sword as i did on these pictures, your alarmbells should have ringed. Even the machine made WWII japanese swords are well executed and do not show grinded fillings as the scabbard shows. Also the mountings are of a cheap moulded quality.