My first Keris

[Henk]

Alam Shah,

Is the juice of coconut enough to get the pamor back?

I was thought that warangan (lemon or lime juice with arsenic) did the etching to get the pamor back again.

[Alam Shah]

Henk, with coconut juice...you'll get a faint pattern. With lime juice, you'll get a light contrasting effect. Most contrasting, would be lime juice with arsenic (but this process, can 'eat' the blade a little), depending on the blade material.

For a blade like Valjhun's, which had worn down, coconut juice is recommended, imo only.

[Valjhun]

Alam Shah, Thank you.

What about the coco juice? If I understand it right I have to buy around 10 coconuts at the fruits vendor and then deep the keris int that juice , or are we talking about a special coconut product?

[Alam Shah]

Valjhun, It depends on how much water the coconut contains. And considering it will evaporate slowly, about 10 would do fine.

[Valjhun]

Like Nechesh said, They can be verry verry adictive, so I introduce my second puppy. Not as nice as the first one, I guess (there is no mendak, the ukiran is stuck, pendok damaged) but still a nice javanese(?) oldie with quite nice pamor (tell me if i'm wrong).

As ever, I have some questions.
What kind of pamor is it and what is it bring?
How old is the blade?
Is it constructed of meteorite?

Thanks!

BTW: There's the third one on his way

[Alam Shah]

Hmm...an old blade.
Keris Gayaman Solo, Dapur Brojol.
Pamor looks like a mixture of a few patterns.

> Like Nechesh said, They can be verry verry adictive, so I introduce my second
> puppy. Not as nice as the first one, I guess (there is no mendak, the ukiran is
> stuck, pendok damaged) but still a nice javanese(?) oldie with quite nice
> pamor (tell me if i'm wrong).

To remove the ukiran, heat the blade a little at the sorsoran area and gently remove the ukiran, in a gentle twisting motion.
From the 3rd picture, it seems that pitch had been used to secure the ukiran, due to some black stain on the ganja and sorsoran area.

The pendok you should be able to remove and do some minor touch-up.

[nechesh]

Sorry, i double posted. See post below.

[nechesh]

Originally Posted by Valjhun

BTW: There's the third one on his way

Yep, i'm afraid there is no hope for you now.....Bwah Ha Ha!
One thing i will say about your keris collecting is that you seem to be avoiding the pitfalls of many new collectors in that you are finding actual old pieces, condition issues aside, instead of all those new keris that are aged and sold as old.
Shahrial may well be right that pitch was used here, but do be careful not to try to force the hilt off or you might crack it. Sometimes some idoit comes along and epoxys a hilt on.
You should be able to at least minimize the pendok damage as has been suggested and it's easy enough to buy a nice mendak. It looks like this blade should clean up nicely.
If you've been following the recent meteorite thread you might have predicted my answer to that question . I would personally be doubtful, but from your pics i will say that this keris does appear to have some fairly high-contrast pamor for an old blade. You never know (really). Would love to see what it looks like cleaned and stained.