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|  18th October 2016, 01:50 PM | #1 | 
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			A bronze hilt of similar construction with a sinha (or yali?) pommel. This seems to corroborate a connection with Hindu regions of southern India. (Thanks to Ibrahiim for originally pulling this off the Ali Antiques website; all pics shown here for comparision modified to show the same orientation.) | 
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|  18th October 2016, 01:53 PM | #2 | 
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			This sword with a horse head pommel has a different kind of blade.
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|  18th October 2016, 01:58 PM | #3 | 
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			Another zoomorphic pommel. However, the hilt exhibiting some differences from the standard configuration discussed here: a vestigial crossbar at the back of the blade and more floral decorations, especially at the base of the blade. Arguably, it may be questionable whether this is really of the same pattern and origin as the other examples discussed here.
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|  18th October 2016, 02:23 PM | #4 | 
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			And last not least another variant with a more stylized pommel (still close enough to the bird examples shown above). With the grip and pommel scales made from ivory, this one was also a status piece. Thus, one might argue that all these examples were mid (to high in post #58) status swords from somewhere in southern India; all seem to be well earlier than late 19th century. Regards, Kai Last edited by kai; 18th October 2016 at 02:52 PM. Reason: adding full-size pic | 
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|  6th April 2021, 01:13 AM | #5 | 
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			I haven't updated this thread for quite a while. As possible origins within southern India, there have been suggestions to a link to the late Vijayanagar empire and/or possibly local kingdoms developing from it (including more specifically Madurai in today's Tamil Nadu). There also have been thoughts towards the NW frontier area of a greater "Indian" sphere of influence as well as central Asia (cp. this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=21429). More insights and examples more than welcome - this enigma certainly hasn't been fully solved yet! Regards, Kai | 
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|  6th April 2021, 01:25 AM | #6 | 
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			And another example possibly related: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=26861 The knuckle guard seems to be unique with (now missing) scales attached to it originally. Were these possibly crafted from brass? Regards, Kai | 
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