Mandau/ Parang nyabur?

Maurice · 5th August 2016, 12:53 PM

The blade by the way is not a jimpul blade.
If you try the search function "tilang kamarau" you find blades which looks close like the blade Green depicted.

Best regards,
Maurice

Ian · 5th August 2016, 04:04 PM

Maurice:

Thank you for your detailed knowledge about these swords and their points of distinction. I found this very helpful.

Ian.

Green · 6th August 2016, 02:14 PM

Maurice,

Many thnks for the comments. I can now understand that It is not a nyabur , but what is it ? could it be just a mix and match item that people did to make a quick buck? I won't be surprised... but the hilt to me looks quite genuine and has a nice patina to it.So is the blade in fact. simple but look genuine enough?

Btw, when i meet people in serawak, they never use the term mandau, but parang ilang for those blades made by orang ulu (a group of people in hinterland serawak comprising of kenyah , kayan and a few other smaller gps).

When i showed this to a few poeple there, they simply call it a parang... i guess even locals are now quite clueless about their heritage.

Maurice · 6th August 2016, 08:26 PM

Thank you Ian. Glad I can be of any help here.

Green: How thick is the spine of the blade near the hilt?

PS a mandau has different names in different tribes. You can read it in Shelford (other names: parang ilang, malat or baieng)

But all are referring to a blade where the inner side is concave and the outer side is convex.

As the word Parang is used for sword in English, I think you could call your sword a parang indeed, when the authentic word is unknown. Because the blade isn't convex and concave you can't call it a mandau though, as that would be not right.

Best wishes,
Maurice

Green · 9th August 2016, 07:44 AM

Maurice, it is 1cm thick at the base and 0.5 cm in the middle.But feels light in the hand.

Maurice · 9th August 2016, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Green

Maurice, it is 1cm thick at the base and 0.5 cm in the middle.But feels light in the hand.

OK thanks!
That is a good thickness to do for what it was designed :-)

6th August 2016, 08:26 PM	#4
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,453	Thank you Ian. Glad I can be of any help here. Green: How thick is the spine of the blade near the hilt? PS a mandau has different names in different tribes. You can read it in Shelford (other names: parang ilang, malat or baieng) But all are referring to a blade where the inner side is concave and the outer side is convex. As the word Parang is used for sword in English, I think you could call your sword a parang indeed, when the authentic word is unknown. Because the blade isn't convex and concave you can't call it a mandau though, as that would be not right. Best wishes, Maurice Last edited by Maurice; 7th August 2016 at 08:28 AM.

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5th August 2016, 12:53 PM	#1
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,453	The blade by the way is not a jimpul blade. If you try the search function "tilang kamarau" you find blades which looks close like the blade Green depicted. Best regards, Maurice

5th August 2016, 04:04 PM	#2
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,397	Maurice: Thank you for your detailed knowledge about these swords and their points of distinction. I found this very helpful. Ian.

6th August 2016, 02:14 PM	#3
Green Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Malaysia Posts: 323	Maurice, Many thnks for the comments. I can now understand that It is not a nyabur , but what is it ? could it be just a mix and match item that people did to make a quick buck? I won't be surprised... but the hilt to me looks quite genuine and has a nice patina to it.So is the blade in fact. simple but look genuine enough? Btw, when i meet people in serawak, they never use the term mandau, but parang ilang for those blades made by orang ulu (a group of people in hinterland serawak comprising of kenyah , kayan and a few other smaller gps). When i showed this to a few poeple there, they simply call it a parang... i guess even locals are now quite clueless about their heritage.

9th August 2016, 07:44 AM	#5
Green Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Malaysia Posts: 323	Maurice, it is 1cm thick at the base and 0.5 cm in the middle.But feels light in the hand.