Minangkabau(?) keris

asomotif · 2nd August 2016, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sajen

I would let restore this pendokok, you will have after this a very nice keris, it's worth the effort. Maybe a gold smith can give the gonjo also a new cover!?

A very nice and good keris!

Regards,
Detlef

I agree 100% with Detlef on the pendokok. It looks fine in combination with the buntut and can easily be restored in the correct shape.

Nice keris btw. Hugging and kissing seems overdone, But calling it George... why not

Best regards,
Willem

A. G. Maisey · 2nd August 2016, 10:55 PM

Nothing wrong with that cleaning result Jean, it is as Detlef has said, it was deeply corroded in the first place.

Actually, the material in that blade does not appear to be what I had in mind when I used the word "spongey".

Some Javanese blades have pamor sanak that has been made from what appears to be very low quality wrought iron that has not been cleaned properly during the forging process, when you try to clean it with anything, even my old-time favourite, pineapple juice, it develops holes and open grain that was simply not visible before the cleaning process.

Your blade shown here has a heap of pits, caused by corrosion, it does not display the effect I have tried to describe.

Incidentally, I think you will find that the heavier concentration of pitting in the front part of the blade has occurred where it has been heat treated, behind the point at which the heat treat stopped the pitting is less concentrated.

Note, the "cleaning during the forging process" that I mention above has nothing to do with vinegar, it is the repeated folding and welding of material in order to remove impurities. The general rule is that you fold and weld until "stars" do not fly from the material at weld heat when struck by the hammer.

Jean · 3rd August 2016, 09:12 AM

Hello Detlef and Alan,
Thank you, I agree that I could not do better for a complete blade cleaning and that the blade materials was sound but deeply corroded.
Regards

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2nd August 2016, 10:55 PM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,015	Nothing wrong with that cleaning result Jean, it is as Detlef has said, it was deeply corroded in the first place. Actually, the material in that blade does not appear to be what I had in mind when I used the word "spongey". Some Javanese blades have pamor sanak that has been made from what appears to be very low quality wrought iron that has not been cleaned properly during the forging process, when you try to clean it with anything, even my old-time favourite, pineapple juice, it develops holes and open grain that was simply not visible before the cleaning process. Your blade shown here has a heap of pits, caused by corrosion, it does not display the effect I have tried to describe. Incidentally, I think you will find that the heavier concentration of pitting in the front part of the blade has occurred where it has been heat treated, behind the point at which the heat treat stopped the pitting is less concentrated. Note, the "cleaning during the forging process" that I mention above has nothing to do with vinegar, it is the repeated folding and welding of material in order to remove impurities. The general rule is that you fold and weld until "stars" do not fly from the material at weld heat when struck by the hammer.

3rd August 2016, 09:12 AM	#3
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Hello Detlef and Alan, Thank you, I agree that I could not do better for a complete blade cleaning and that the blade materials was sound but deeply corroded. Regards