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			Hi all, thanks for the input 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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 And There is also a saying " beraja ke Johor, bertali ke Siak dan bertuan ke Minangkabau". roughly means ~ the Kingdom is to Johore , family/ ties to Siak and to Lord to Minangkabau" (not a good English translation I think). In one version the ancestors are from Johore, but the kris points otherwise. The keris is family heirloom kept by a distant family member. Malays are quite protective of their family heirloom. that's why I have very limited access to the item. Need some kind of foundation to persuade them to explore family history. Regards  | 
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