A Very Nice Coorg Pichangetti With All the "Bells and Whistles"

CharlesS · 5th June 2016, 03:12 PM

[QUOTE="Every Coorg man gets one done when he gets marries and I got one done a couple years ago(see attached)", unquote...again, I cannot share the images here.

Gavin[/QUOTE]

Gavin,

That's interesting info. It would make one believe that you would see more of these pichangettis around, but as family heirlooms...and they must take them seriously as such...that may explain their relative scarcity.

Jens Nordlunde · 5th June 2016, 04:48 PM

The coconut was used in more than one way in India in the old times. Here is a quote.
"When the delegation from Mawar arrived at the Mewar court, and presented the customary betrothal coconut, prince Chunda was absent, and Maharana Lakha jokingly asked if the betrothal was meant for him being an old grey
bearded man."
So what Garv writes it quite interesting, as the coconut still have a meaning.

BANDOOK · 9th June 2016, 12:11 PM

HI CHARLES HERE ARE COUPLE OF PICHANGETTIS BELONGING TO MY UNCLE WHO IS A COORGI[NATIVE OF COORG].THEY BELONGED TO HIS GRANDFATHER WHICH WAS THEN PASSED ON TO HIS FATHER AND INTURN TO HIM.AS THEY ARE FAMILY HEIRLOOMS THEY NEVER GET SOLD.
ALSO IS A FAMILY PICTURE OF HIS GRANDFATHER AND HIS DAD AS A YOUNG BOY.
REGARDS RAJESH

BANDOOK · 9th June 2016, 12:18 PM

SOME MORE PICTURES OF PICHANGETTIS AND ITS BIGGER BROTHER THE WAR WEAPON THE ADYA KATTI

CharlesS · 9th June 2016, 09:44 PM

BANDOOK,

Thanks so much for posting these lovely heirloom examples along with the photos. It's always amazing when we can get some input from the actual culture that used/uses the blade in discussion!

You post would certainly suggest why we see so few of these on the market.

It seems that with the pichangetti's the blade may change a little bit in size, but only the blade's dress and scabbard materials are altered, and even then the basic nature of the knife always stays the same.

Are quality of materials based on wealth or status?....or as in many cultures one is synonymous with the other?

Royston · 9th June 2016, 10:33 PM

Hello Charles
That is a beauty for sure.

I pulled this photo off the web a long time ago so cannot remember where from. It's not brilliant but does show both knives being worn and held.

As for Bandook's photos - I could have sworn that the one on the gray background was mine until I noticed the it does not have a central silver band on the scabbard. They look like brothers. I have included a photo of my one from a previous post.

I wonder how many smiths there were making these?

Regards
Roy

BANDOOK · 10th June 2016, 12:08 PM

HI ROYSTON
THE BLADES ARE MADE BY BLACKSMITHS AND THEN SENT TO THE JEWELLERS WHO THEN DECORATE THEM AND INLAY THEM WITH WOOD AND SILVER,BONE AND IVORY HAS BEEN USED IN SOME OCASSIONS BUT SILVER IS PREFERRED MORE.
NOW DAYS ONE CAN BUY NEW ONES AT THE JEWELLERS IN MERCARA ,CAPITAL OF COORG DISTRICT AND VIRAJPET,SO THAT ONE CAN USE THEM FOR WEDDINGS AND TRADITIONAL FESTIVALS.
I HAVE POSTED MY COORG GUN EARLIER IN THE FORUM BUT WOULD POST SOME PICTURES TO GO WITH THE BEAUTIFUL PICHANGETTI

9th June 2016, 12:11 PM	#3
BANDOOK Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: AUCKLAND,NEW ZEALAND Posts: 624	A COUPLE OF MY UNCLES PICHANGETTIS HI CHARLES HERE ARE COUPLE OF PICHANGETTIS BELONGING TO MY UNCLE WHO IS A COORGI[NATIVE OF COORG].THEY BELONGED TO HIS GRANDFATHER WHICH WAS THEN PASSED ON TO HIS FATHER AND INTURN TO HIM.AS THEY ARE FAMILY HEIRLOOMS THEY NEVER GET SOLD. ALSO IS A FAMILY PICTURE OF HIS GRANDFATHER AND HIS DAD AS A YOUNG BOY. REGARDS RAJESH Attached Images

9th June 2016, 12:18 PM	#4
BANDOOK Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: AUCKLAND,NEW ZEALAND Posts: 624	SOME MORE PICTURES OF PICHANGETTIS AND ITS BIGGER BROTHER THE WAR WEAPON THE ADYA KATTI Attached Images

9th June 2016, 10:33 PM	#6
Royston Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Poole England Posts: 443	Hello Charles That is a beauty for sure. I pulled this photo off the web a long time ago so cannot remember where from. It's not brilliant but does show both knives being worn and held. As for Bandook's photos - I could have sworn that the one on the gray background was mine until I noticed the it does not have a central silver band on the scabbard. They look like brothers. I have included a photo of my one from a previous post. I wonder how many smiths there were making these? Regards Roy Attached Images

10th June 2016, 12:08 PM	#7
BANDOOK Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: AUCKLAND,NEW ZEALAND Posts: 624	HI ROYSTON THE BLADES ARE MADE BY BLACKSMITHS AND THEN SENT TO THE JEWELLERS WHO THEN DECORATE THEM AND INLAY THEM WITH WOOD AND SILVER,BONE AND IVORY HAS BEEN USED IN SOME OCASSIONS BUT SILVER IS PREFERRED MORE. NOW DAYS ONE CAN BUY NEW ONES AT THE JEWELLERS IN MERCARA ,CAPITAL OF COORG DISTRICT AND VIRAJPET,SO THAT ONE CAN USE THEM FOR WEDDINGS AND TRADITIONAL FESTIVALS. I HAVE POSTED MY COORG GUN EARLIER IN THE FORUM BUT WOULD POST SOME PICTURES TO GO WITH THE BEAUTIFUL PICHANGETTI Attached Images

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5th June 2016, 03:12 PM	#1
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	[QUOTE="Every Coorg man gets one done when he gets marries and I got one done a couple years ago(see attached)", unquote...again, I cannot share the images here. Gavin[/QUOTE] Gavin, That's interesting info. It would make one believe that you would see more of these pichangettis around, but as family heirlooms...and they must take them seriously as such...that may explain their relative scarcity.

5th June 2016, 04:48 PM	#2
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	The coconut was used in more than one way in India in the old times. Here is a quote. "When the delegation from Mawar arrived at the Mewar court, and presented the customary betrothal coconut, prince Chunda was absent, and Maharana Lakha jokingly asked if the betrothal was meant for him being an old grey bearded man." So what Garv writes it quite interesting, as the coconut still have a meaning.

9th June 2016, 09:44 PM	#5
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	BANDOOK, Thanks so much for posting these lovely heirloom examples along with the photos. It's always amazing when we can get some input from the actual culture that used/uses the blade in discussion! You post would certainly suggest why we see so few of these on the market. It seems that with the pichangetti's the blade may change a little bit in size, but only the blade's dress and scabbard materials are altered, and even then the basic nature of the knife always stays the same. Are quality of materials based on wealth or status?....or as in many cultures one is synonymous with the other?