Matchlock accessories

stenoyab · 1st February 2016, 09:30 PM

Heres one I own, the cover for the pan, the vent pick, the pan scraper are all held by chains. The fourth chain I assume was to hold one end of the matchcord...... sorry my matchcord is an old shoe lace.... but it shows what I mean.

I have another matchlock with a tube on the side with a small vent pircker in it, that is held purely by friction, no chain.

Pukka Bundook · 2nd February 2016, 02:20 AM

Stenoyab,

That is an interesting arrangement.
Is the pan -cover hinged, or does it come off for firing?

I ask, as the accessories you show appear to fit into holes ahead of the pan.
I have seen these holes before, mostly square, and when we see these, there is apparently no hinged pan -cover. A close -up of the pan both exposed and covered, from above would be really appreciated!

It looks a nice and interesting arm.
In another thread, I would like to see this and the other you mention.

Marcus,
I am wondering if the small mystery implement on your gun was meant to be attached by the ring at the opposite end? If attached in that manner, the lit match would push into the far end, and with this tube having a hole in the side, the match could be kept lit without scorching anything.

Just a guess and al that!

Best regards,

Richard.

stenoyab · 2nd February 2016, 04:18 PM

Hi Richard,
The pan cover is seperate on one of the chains, the chains and pan scraper are silver, as are the swivels and some of the other furniture.

If not for the middle hole you could have thought this was missing a hinged pan cover, but I don't think it ever had one.

Ot of interest this matchlock still has its original bayonet attached, I did post this on the forum over 10 years ago, but the old post seems to be lost now.

If your interest is in pan covers, I have a relic matchlock with a sprung pan cover, released via a catch towards the rear of the stock.

stenoyab · 2nd February 2016, 05:45 PM

This is another matchlock that I'd consider more of a military pattern to most, being of a short length and very plain. The holder on the rear of the side plate holds a vent priker.

stenoyab · 2nd February 2016, 05:52 PM

I forget where I got these photos from, was over 10 years ago, but they do show atleast one Indian matchlock with purpose made holes to allow the cord to wrap through the butt.

Pukka Bundook · 3rd February 2016, 03:23 AM

Hello again Stenoyab,

Thanks for all the photos!

I have a couple of Persian barrels when they get here, and they have a couple of square holes ahead of the pan, so must be for something similar to the one in your first photos.
I did read in the descriptions of some of the matchlocks collected after the surrender of Oudh, that they did not normally have pan covers. The odd one did, and this was noted. So, it would appear they too were of this type.

I have seen the holes in the stock for the matchcord. I suppose if both ends passed through holes of this sort, it would prevent the match coming loose when carried. Clever what?!

I would like to see a photo of your relic with the sprung pan -cover!
Maybe under another thread so we don't hi-jack Marcus' thread too much!

I Really want to get a torador all fettled up for shooting!
I do have a nice barrel or so coming from the UK in due course.
I wonder why spell-check thinks it is so smart, and keeps turning Torador into toreador!??

Richard.

1st February 2016, 09:30 PM	#1
stenoyab Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43	Heres one I own, the cover for the pan, the vent pick, the pan scraper are all held by chains. The fourth chain I assume was to hold one end of the matchcord...... sorry my matchcord is an old shoe lace.... but it shows what I mean. I have another matchlock with a tube on the side with a small vent pircker in it, that is held purely by friction, no chain. Attached Images

2nd February 2016, 04:18 PM	#3
stenoyab Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43	Hi Richard, The pan cover is seperate on one of the chains, the chains and pan scraper are silver, as are the swivels and some of the other furniture. If not for the middle hole you could have thought this was missing a hinged pan cover, but I don't think it ever had one. Ot of interest this matchlock still has its original bayonet attached, I did post this on the forum over 10 years ago, but the old post seems to be lost now. If your interest is in pan covers, I have a relic matchlock with a sprung pan cover, released via a catch towards the rear of the stock. Attached Images Last edited by stenoyab; 2nd February 2016 at 05:54 PM.

2nd February 2016, 05:45 PM	#4
stenoyab Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43	This is another matchlock that I'd consider more of a military pattern to most, being of a short length and very plain. The holder on the rear of the side plate holds a vent priker. Attached Images

2nd February 2016, 05:52 PM	#5
stenoyab Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43	I forget where I got these photos from, was over 10 years ago, but they do show atleast one Indian matchlock with purpose made holes to allow the cord to wrap through the butt. Attached Images

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2nd February 2016, 02:20 AM	#2
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	Stenoyab, That is an interesting arrangement. Is the pan -cover hinged, or does it come off for firing? I ask, as the accessories you show appear to fit into holes ahead of the pan. I have seen these holes before, mostly square, and when we see these, there is apparently no hinged pan -cover. A close -up of the pan both exposed and covered, from above would be really appreciated! It looks a nice and interesting arm. In another thread, I would like to see this and the other you mention. Marcus, I am wondering if the small mystery implement on your gun was meant to be attached by the ring at the opposite end? If attached in that manner, the lit match would push into the far end, and with this tube having a hole in the side, the match could be kept lit without scorching anything. Just a guess and al that! Best regards, Richard.

3rd February 2016, 03:23 AM	#6
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	Hello again Stenoyab, Thanks for all the photos! I have a couple of Persian barrels when they get here, and they have a couple of square holes ahead of the pan, so must be for something similar to the one in your first photos. I did read in the descriptions of some of the matchlocks collected after the surrender of Oudh, that they did not normally have pan covers. The odd one did, and this was noted. So, it would appear they too were of this type. I have seen the holes in the stock for the matchcord. I suppose if both ends passed through holes of this sort, it would prevent the match coming loose when carried. Clever what?! I would like to see a photo of your relic with the sprung pan -cover! Maybe under another thread so we don't hi-jack Marcus' thread too much! I Really want to get a torador all fettled up for shooting! I do have a nice barrel or so coming from the UK in due course. I wonder why spell-check thinks it is so smart, and keeps turning Torador into toreador!?? Richard.