Shashka scabbard mountings suggestions?

ariel · 11th January 2005, 01:31 AM

That's the first time I see walrus mounting!
Wild suggestion: how about walrus or ivory for the rest? Ot metal (silver?) with ivory plates on it?
Very, very nice one... Congratulations!
Any markings on the blade?

RSWORD · 11th January 2005, 02:32 AM

Very unusual to see a scabbard mount made of ivory! I doubt the top and bottom scabbard mount would also have been ivory but as Ariel suggests, perhaps silver with ivory plaques.

Yannis · 11th January 2005, 07:58 AM

For me also is the first time that I see an ivory mount. I wonder how strong can it be to hold the weight of the sword.

Is it possible to be holow with metal inside?

For the rest fittings I say ivory too, exept the top throat.

When you have the most difficult part of ivory, the rest that they have no presure, could be ivory too. A very strange scabbard indeed.

Rather · 11th January 2005, 10:42 AM

WOW – What a beauty! Congratulations, I envy you. I personally would use Ivory of the same colour for the missing parts. As one can only guess, what was originally used, I would restore it a way fitting to the style of the other parts.

Battara · 11th January 2005, 09:47 PM

Like Rsword, I would also suggest silver. It would compliment the ivory and be more traditional (not to mention a whole lot cheaper).

erlikhan · 11th January 2005, 10:08 PM

wow. is it really so interesting? thanks a lot. i was thinking of restoring it with low grade silver or brass cheaply and to resell as i paid something even less than that costs for the cheapest types of original kinjals. so perhaps i must consider its value on a different scale and keep it for myself after restoring it with walrus, as even just that bottom mounting alone would cost twice of the amount i gave for the sword itself, if made from walrus . Or original decorated silver mountings , if I can find a spare set in market,would be ok too. And the hanger loop is carved from single piece ivory .no metal inside.

Rivkin · 15th January 2005, 08:41 PM

It seems to be a rare example, I think that most post 1850 expensive shashkas would have silver niello, so it must be a very expensive shashka that is also probably old. Are there any marks on the blade ?

erlikhan · 20th January 2005, 11:02 PM

although steel quality is very high, no mark on the blade. not a rich sample unlike the scabbard and hilt for sure.
6504827069 . an ivory hilted shashka ended today. can anybody define the blade? is it too badly sharpened or what? machine made chrome plated? seemed strange to me.

11th January 2005, 10:08 PM	#6
erlikhan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Istanbul Posts: 452	wow. is it really so interesting? thanks a lot. i was thinking of restoring it with low grade silver or brass cheaply and to resell as i paid something even less than that costs for the cheapest types of original kinjals. so perhaps i must consider its value on a different scale and keep it for myself after restoring it with walrus, as even just that bottom mounting alone would cost twice of the amount i gave for the sword itself, if made from walrus . Or original decorated silver mountings , if I can find a spare set in market,would be ok too. And the hanger loop is carved from single piece ivory .no metal inside. Last edited by erlikhan; 11th January 2005 at 11:04 PM.

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11th January 2005, 01:31 AM	#1
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	That's the first time I see walrus mounting! Wild suggestion: how about walrus or ivory for the rest? Ot metal (silver?) with ivory plates on it? Very, very nice one... Congratulations! Any markings on the blade?

11th January 2005, 02:32 AM	#2
RSWORD Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,087	Very unusual to see a scabbard mount made of ivory! I doubt the top and bottom scabbard mount would also have been ivory but as Ariel suggests, perhaps silver with ivory plaques.

11th January 2005, 07:58 AM	#3
Yannis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Athens Greece Posts: 479	For me also is the first time that I see an ivory mount. I wonder how strong can it be to hold the weight of the sword. Is it possible to be holow with metal inside? For the rest fittings I say ivory too, exept the top throat. When you have the most difficult part of ivory, the rest that they have no presure, could be ivory too. A very strange scabbard indeed.

11th January 2005, 10:42 AM	#4
Rather Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hamburg, Germany Posts: 72	WOW – What a beauty! Congratulations, I envy you. I personally would use Ivory of the same colour for the missing parts. As one can only guess, what was originally used, I would restore it a way fitting to the style of the other parts.

11th January 2005, 09:47 PM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,282	Like Rsword, I would also suggest silver. It would compliment the ivory and be more traditional (not to mention a whole lot cheaper).

15th January 2005, 08:41 PM	#7
Rivkin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 655	It seems to be a rare example, I think that most post 1850 expensive shashkas would have silver niello, so it must be a very expensive shashka that is also probably old. Are there any marks on the blade ?

20th January 2005, 11:02 PM	#8
erlikhan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Istanbul Posts: 452	although steel quality is very high, no mark on the blade. not a rich sample unlike the scabbard and hilt for sure. 6504827069 . an ivory hilted shashka ended today. can anybody define the blade? is it too badly sharpened or what? machine made chrome plated? seemed strange to me.