Not an arm or armour, but maybe you can help

A Senefelder · 21st November 2015, 09:30 PM

I have no idea what this is but thought it odd that the two holes were punched from opposite sides, one punched front to back, one punched back to front ( as shown by the remnants of the cone created by driving a sharp implement through the metal ).

Oliver Pinchot · 22nd November 2015, 01:04 AM

Appears to depict Leopold I Holy Roman Emperor (1640-1705)
also knows as "Hogmouth" for his distinctive Habsburg chin.

AHorsa · 24th November 2015, 07:58 PM

Thanks for the answers!
Yes, those holes seem to be drilled unprofessional through the metal. VBut in old times before it landed in the ground.
@ Oliver: Possible, but I´m afraid the many noble persons of this time looked like that.

There is a rest of some connection or the like left on the left side (picture of the back). Maybe this can give a hint...

Thanks and best regards
Andreas

Dave T. · 3rd December 2015, 12:49 AM

"...thought it odd that the two holes were punched from opposite sides, one punched front to back, one punched back to front ( as shown by the remnants of the cone created by driving a sharp implement through the metal )."

I think I see the reason for the holes coming from different directions. The design on the disc is repousse work, where the thin metal is hammered from the back side to create a raised design. If one tried to drill or punch a hole where there was a hollow under the thin metal it would distort the design. You would flip the piece whichever way would put the thin metal directly against a firm backing surface (like a block of wood or lead) before you tried to punch a hole at that spot. The hole on the left was in a depressed area of the design, so it could be punched without flipping the disc onto its face.

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21st November 2015, 09:30 PM	#1
A Senefelder Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 214	I have no idea what this is but thought it odd that the two holes were punched from opposite sides, one punched front to back, one punched back to front ( as shown by the remnants of the cone created by driving a sharp implement through the metal ).

22nd November 2015, 01:04 AM	#2
Oliver Pinchot Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 464	Appears to depict Leopold I Holy Roman Emperor (1640-1705) also knows as "Hogmouth" for his distinctive Habsburg chin.

24th November 2015, 07:58 PM	#3
AHorsa Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Rhineland Posts: 375	Thanks for the answers! Yes, those holes seem to be drilled unprofessional through the metal. VBut in old times before it landed in the ground. @ Oliver: Possible, but I´m afraid the many noble persons of this time looked like that. There is a rest of some connection or the like left on the left side (picture of the back). Maybe this can give a hint... Thanks and best regards Andreas

3rd December 2015, 12:49 AM	#4
Dave T. Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1	"...thought it odd that the two holes were punched from opposite sides, one punched front to back, one punched back to front ( as shown by the remnants of the cone created by driving a sharp implement through the metal )." I think I see the reason for the holes coming from different directions. The design on the disc is repousse work, where the thin metal is hammered from the back side to create a raised design. If one tried to drill or punch a hole where there was a hollow under the thin metal it would distort the design. You would flip the piece whichever way would put the thin metal directly against a firm backing surface (like a block of wood or lead) before you tried to punch a hole at that spot. The hole on the left was in a depressed area of the design, so it could be punched without flipping the disc onto its face.