Saudi Government Issued Saif

[A.alnakkas]

Originally Posted by Richard G

Lotfy,
Yes, this is the type of blade an 1821 pattern sabre would have. However in 1853 a new pattern for other ranks was introduced without a ricasso, and that, I think, was the end of the ricasso. The 1821 type blade survived for officers, but these would normally be engraved blades and have a "proof" mark on one side of the ricasso. The ricasso on most surviving 1821 other ranks blades I have seen seem to me to be shorter than on your one, and the blade a little wider and more curved. Your type of blade was also in use for infantry officers etc. until the very late 19th century but the same comment re decoration applies. It was also used for non commissioned officers in plain form, and for other government and para-military organisations. I suspect it would be a common type supplied for export.
One place the plain 1821 type cavalry blade remained popular was India.
Altho' this type of blade was popular in 19th Century Britain, it was also, of course, manufactured in Germany.
So, a blade based on the British 1821 cavalry pattern, that could well be 19th Century British.
There was a scandal in the mid 19th Century about sub-standard blades but I believe these were all weeded out, so yes, it would be of a quality more than adequate for its purpose.
Regards
Richard

Hey Richard,

My knowledge in European military swords is subpar at best. Though I have seen multiple saifs in photographs and carried by Saudi royals with this blade design but with varying lengths. Though the shape is very similar. There is also another design used in that period, a foreign blade shaped like a clauberg but completely straight without a shallow curve. I'll try to acquire photos of it.

The later military issue have blades similar to the one shown in this post but more slender, with a different distal taper and always carry serial numbers on the blade and the scabbard. The one I am showing likely have an antique blade, the dress is made in Taif and copies the government military design although usually with lesser quality.

There was a preference for shallow curved swords or straight single edged blades :-)