Jambiya thouma

[Kubur]

Originally Posted by kahnjar1

I agree with Tim. SOME information is often available on the Forum, but most is gleaned by reading and searching other sites on the internet.
I am a little surprised that you are having trouble finding information on Thouma Jambiyas as you say you have Steve Gracie's book. He describes these, and other styles at length.

Hi All,

Thanks you for your comments and constructive answers.
Steve Gracie's book is excellent and after?
Do you think that it's a bible with all the answers? It's not.
For the question of research, unfortunately as I have read on some threads on the forum, many members don't know what research is. And I won't do this job. Gracie shows very interesting old jambiya with dates, but then most of the jambiya are described by type and area. It's really good, but I would like to have more information about the differences between 19th c. jambiya, 1920ties and 1950ties jambiya. I'm not interested by the later ones.

[kahnjar1]

Originally Posted by Kubur

Hi All,

Thanks you for your comments and constructive answers.
Steve Gracie's book is excellent and after?
Do you think that it's a bible with all the answers? It's not.
For the question of research, unfortunately as I have read on some threads on the forum, many members don't know what research is. And I won't do this job. Gracie shows very interesting old jambiya with dates, but then most of the jambiya are described by type and area. It's really good, but I would like to have more information about the differences between 19th c. jambiya, 1920ties and 1950ties jambiya. I'm not interested by the later ones.

Hi Kubur,
I do not, and did not suggest that Steve's book is "THE BIBLE" with ALL the answers. No book can possibly answer ALL the questions a reader is liable to ask.
Your original thread did not specifically ask for the difference between various Thouma and how to date them, simply asking Members for the information they might have on the style itself.
BUT if information is sought, then one must also research for themselves, and not necessarily rely on others to do the job for them. You state above, and I quote "And I won't do this job". Maybe you should reconsider.....
Have you for instance emailed the writer of the book? Maybe you could consider that. There is a contact email printed on page 211. I'm sure Steve would be happy to answer your specific questions.
Good Luck

[Kubur]

Originally Posted by kahnjar1

Hi Kubur,
BUT if information is sought, then one must also research for themselves, and not necessarily rely on others to do the job for them. You state above, and I quote "And I won't do this job". Maybe you should reconsider.....
Have you for instance emailed the writer of the book? Maybe you could consider that. There is a contact email printed on page 211. I'm sure Steve would be happy to answer your specific questions.
Good Luck

Dear Stu,
Thank you for your idea to contact the author. But I was thinking that it could be more interesting to post a thread. For me it was the whole idea of this forum, no? It seems that you have few jambiya, do you have the kind we talked about?
Best,

[kahnjar1]

Originally Posted by Kubur

Dear Stu,
Thank you for your idea to contact the author. But I was thinking that it could be more interesting to post a thread. For me it was the whole idea of this forum, no? It seems that you have few jambiya, do you have the kind we talked about?
Best,

Hi Kubur,
All avenues of investigation need to be followed to improve one's knowledge of the particular subject, including posts to the Forum, books, and any other way, such as email contact with informed people.
As far any Thumah jambiya in my collection go, I only have one now, but did have some others.
The one I have now, and posted here, is probably more correctly called a Julba, due to it's size. It is 19" (48.5cm) top to bottom. The whole is made of high quality silver with beautiful decoration, and is signed and dated by the maker. It weighs 1.2kg.
The translation of the Arabic reads AMAL (made by) MOHAMED MIDWANE 1378 (1958 AD) JEDDAH So we know who made it, where it was made, and also when.
Stu

[Kubur]

Originally Posted by kahnjar1

Hi Kubur,
The one I have now, and posted here, is probably more correctly called a Julba, due to it's size. It is 19" (48.5cm) top to bottom. The whole is made of high quality silver with beautiful decoration, and is signed and dated by the maker. It weighs 1.2kg.
The translation of the Arabic reads AMAL (made by) MOHAMED MIDWANE 1378 (1958 AD) JEDDAH So we know who made it, where it was made, and also when.
Stu

Hi Stu,

Very beautiful jambiya, so this size is in between the thouma and the dharia??
Jeddah its interesting because according to Gracie this kind is from Yemen normaly...

Best, Kubur

[kahnjar1]

Originally Posted by Kubur

Hi Stu,

Very beautiful jambiya, so this size is in between the thouma and the dharia??
Jeddah its interesting because according to Gracie this kind is from Yemen normaly...

Best, Kubur

No the size is not necessarily between the Thumah and Dharia. Some Dharias (Sabiki) are smaller than this Julba.
The Dharia(Sabiki) is a completely different style which is worn horizontally across the waist.
He actually says that Julba are from the Tihama area, (part of with is Yemen and part modern day Saudi Arabia)....see page 137.

[Kubur]

Hi Guys,
I wanted to share with you this thouma just arrived.
I don't know if it's an old or a new one and i don't care.
I just know that has been used and almost sure that it's a rhino grip.
Best,
Kubur